- While we wait for the Cotic Rocket…
Last advice was that there are plans for a 29er but they’re concentrating on getting the first 50 26ers out first.
On the 26ers… the black or white options for the rear ‘triangle’ are apparently for people to match with their fork colour. Also, there are design/manufacture changes to the shock linkage and mounting that will improve shock performance, save about 100 grams, and will enable use of a stealth dropper.Posted 3 years ago
The prototype 29er versions won masters cat and 16th in Elites at Afan UKGE but I’m guessing that’s all they are for now – prototypes, until the next batch of 26ers are out
Yeah that’s what made me think of them, looks like it could be a real contender in the AM 29er category (I won’t use the E word).
Nice to see a company doing things thoroughly and properly (if a bit slowly).Posted 3 years agokelvinSubscriber
That new product page went up yesterday, to coincide with Cy telling people who have pre-ordered UK frames about their options.
The black rear option came about because the team were using “murdered out” Pikes on Taiwaan frames with white rears, and it seemed pretty obvious that they would look better with matching black rears. So that option is available for those patient people who’ve ordered and already know what forks they’re planning on fitting.
Oh, black rears also come with black downtube panels, as the mockups suggest.Posted 3 years agosuperfliMember
I was chatting with one of the guys riding the 29 Rocket at UKGE at the weekend. I’m not sure if its been mentioned before (havent read all the thread), but he told me that they were being built with steel swingarms now? He might be talking about the 29 only, but would be worth investigating if you were buying. Site still says 7005 swingarm…Posted 3 years ago
I’d missed that ‘what’s new’ section:
The Rocket is now a made in the UK!
There are many detail improvements to the Rocket now we have full control of the manufacturing.
The most obvious change is the move to the horseshoe shock actuation. This gives better control over the spring rate deep in the travel and reduces the stress in the seatstay tubes at bottom out.
The latest Rocket also features our new Torque Box swingarm. A hollow shell steel head reduces weight over CNC aluminium parts and allows a far bigger cross brace, which improves torsional stiffness. Butted Reynolds 631 chainstays are stiffer laterally than the aluminium stays they replace for the same weight. Finally, the dropouts are now a steel/aluminium bonded hybrid construction which uses both materials to their best advantage.
Front triangles now feature routing for internal dropper seatposts just below the droplink mounting. To compliment this the external top tube routing for dropper seatposts is now bolt on P-clips for a cleaner look if you do have a Stealth post.
Now available in “that green” as well as the signature Cotic orange colour, and with a choice of black or white rear and panel, so that you can match the frame to your fork colour, or favourite jersey for that matter.Posted 3 years agosuperfliMember
They need to update the frame spec section then:
Reynolds 853 Ovalform and DZB tubed front end brings precision, durability and strength
44mm standard head tube designed with external bottom cup for taper steerer compatiblity and zero stack top cup for minimal stack height
Oversized 35mm seat tube for super stiff support for the main suspension pivots
31.6mm seatpost size is dropper seatpost compatible and the frame has hose clips for the remote under the top tube
ISCG05 mounts on regular threaded bottom bracket bring drivetrain security and reliability
Asymmetric 7005-T6 aluminium swingarm with Syntace X-12 142 x 12 rear axle
15mm pivots for BB and droplink keep the frame solid front to rear
Clearance for big tyres – 2.5″ DH tyres run with plenty of clearance
Geometry for speed, fun and interaction using 140, 150 or 160mm forks. 66.5deg head angle and low 13.3″ BB with 150mm fork
150mm of Cotic droplink suspension brings precision, fun and interaction via a strong progression rate on the linkage driven single pivot layout
Sizes – 16″, 17.5″, 19″. The frames are designed to be compact and chuckable.
Weight – 7.6lbs for the 16″ including Fox Float RL shock
As for difference, I dont know, but weight will almost certainly be affected.Posted 3 years ago
As for difference, I dont know, but weight will almost certainly be affected.
Did you read the above. It mentions weight twice. Once to say a component is lighter and another is the same.
So overall, I imagine it will be unaffected.
Bonded dropouts sound scary though despite flying in bonded aeroplanes, etc, etc, etc.
Edit: beaten to it with an actual weight – 100g. Well done to them.Posted 3 years ago
despite flying in bonded aeroplanes
bonded aeroplanes thus belowPosted 3 years ago
The shocks on the rocket are they just standard tune shocks or is it specific to the rocket? I.e. if i bought the frame only option and got a tftuned version of it which includes
Price includes set-up and heavy-duty mount kits to suit you and your bike, as well as free shipping (mainland UK).
is that worth doing?
looked at the Cane creek but i think i’d prefer fit and forget! rather than knobs to twiddle
😕Posted 3 years ago
There is a base tune for the CCDBA CS on the Cane Creek site that was worked out by Cy, I think. Last time I looked it matched the tune settings he sent me when I asked back in February. Interestingly, there is a different base tune for the Rocket for the new CCDBA Inline – I don’t know where that’s come from given that the shock isn’t available yet and Cotic haven’t mentioned the Inline as a possible option.
You could just set the base tune and forget it until you feel like experimenting a bit. The Cane Creek field guide looks useful for people not used to tuning their own shocks (like me).
There is an internal setting (i.e. not user-adjustable) that sets how much effect the Climb Switch has. Again, according to Cy, the shocks supplied by Cotic will have this set specifically for the Rocket – I think Cy found the setting on the shock he was sent to test to be too soft, so it should be set a bit firmer than default. The CS just adds a set amount of low speed compression and rebound to the tune the user sets him/herself.Posted 3 years agoNorthwindSubscriber
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how is this farce not killing cotic?
I think just because their core business is really damn good hardtails and that’s been unaffected. Also most folks probably realise they’re having trouble because they’re trying to do something that’s hard enough that nobody else in the industry has even tried.
Obviously I can be laid back because I’m not waiting for a Rocket 🙂Posted 3 years ago
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