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  • The Coronavirus Discussion Thread.
  • theotherjonv
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    oh, and one other thing. It’s defamation of character, not deformation. I try not to correct spelling mistakes, particularly since knowing there are some dyslexics on here but that’s not spelling, it’s just the wrong word.

    Sorry.

    ernielynch
    Free Member

    I saw it as an unnoticed predictive text/spellcheck error.

    tpbiker
    Free Member

    Add in crap from Monkeyce and Cinnamon girl with the insulting phrase ‘Scariant’.

    Whilst I have disagreed with pretty much everything CG has ever said about covid, I don’t think the 2 are comparable

    She comes on here with her sincerely held opinion and that’s fair enough even if most think it’s nonsense. She is also from what I can see a pretty regular contributor to numerous other threads

    The other pair are obviously trolling for a reaction, which given the context is just as insulting as anything anyone has said on here

    monkeycmonkeydo
    Free Member

    Nonsense.

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    Currently going through my first dose of the virus and the one symptom which has got me confused is the massive red rash all over me, like I’ve rolled in a bed of nettles, any ideas of how to control the itching?

    Got any hayfever pills? – antihistamines might take the edge off.

    If you speak to your doc you may be able to get a prescription for steroid cream and find a local pharmacy which will drop it up to you.

    Cold damp towel and for the love of God don’t scratch it is the only other advice I can offer.

    kelvin
    Full Member

    She comes on here with her sincerely held opinion

    Agreed 100%.

    Others are trolling, on an issue they know will elicit a strong response due to the effect the pandemic has had on so many people. The difference is clear. Disaster trolling shouldn’t be quietly accepted. Call it out. Or better still, delete it.

    theotherjonv
    Full Member

    elicit (verb)

    evoke or draw out (a reaction, answer, or fact) from someone.

    kelvin
    Full Member

    Thanks teach. That’s going to get old very fast though.

    monkeycmonkeydo
    Free Member

    Or boring brainwashed people calling others out.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    Jeepers

    Ive not been on this thread for a while. It used to be very informative. Now its been wrecked by some folk who don’t understand science and some outright trolls. Well done

    As far as I am aware none of the actual science around covid is in any way controversial. Its all well known stuff. Any dissension is NOT based on any real science but either conspiracy theorists or opportunists pushing their own agenda

    As for the false information not having any consequences – utter rubbish. Its caused deaths by giving folk a reason not to be vaccinated and thus creating a pool of hosts for the infection to spread

    theotherjonv
    Full Member

    Thanks teach. That’s going to get old very fast though.

    I do agonise over it. I know there is a dyslexic community and so don’t like to correct spelling errors, but when the wrong word, particularly a homophone, is used, I do see it as ‘educating’ if you like. Even more if the selection of word is a complex word (eg: you could have just said ‘to get a response’ but that’s another bit of a crusade of mine, particularly as 75% of my team at work are non-native speakers I’ve had to rethink my own writing style) or a semi-legal term like defamation vs deformation.

    It’s not meant to be a sneer, but in the same way as if someone misadvises how to adjust a headset or whatever, we’ll happily correct technical knowledge and hopefully everyone knows a bit more after, is it that different?

    Anyway, thread tangent over.

    kelvin
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    Thing is, it isn’t work, it’s just quick posts mainly made on mobile devices that auto correct incorrectly. Often. But having said that, it can be useful at times, so keep on… perhaps just be sparing with your help. One per a page perhaps? 🙃

    n0b0dy0ftheg0at
    Free Member

    Wish this forum had an Alex Jones member ignore function, there’s a time and a place for spouting rubbish, but within a thread about potential long term illness and even death is not one of them.

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    Strange isn’t it how the ones promoting conspiracy theories say WE are the ones being brainwashed.

    theotherjonv
    Full Member

    why would E-L-I ….. autocomplete or autocorrect to I-L-L though? Elect maybe? Or an E-L-E…. word I could see.

    Genuine interest, starting to work with a team looking at AI and ML and spell and word checking is a simple version of that – but maybe I’ll start another thread. Or do my own research.

    kelvin
    Full Member

    Ellicit is autocorrect to I’ll on my device.

    Ha! It messed that up! Should be…

    “Ellicit is autocorrected to illicit on my device.”

    looking at AI and ML and spell and word checking is a simple version of that

    Sounds like an interesting project. Presumably there are already teams working on this kind of thing in companies like Google and Apple? If not, there should be. I’ll posit the hypothesis that this is exactly the kind of mistake that ML embeds rather than remedies, which is why it isn’t AI, it’s powerful but dumb. Anyway, yes, another thread…

    theotherjonv
    Full Member

    makes sense, ta. Now I’m a bit cleverer too, that’s today’s objective met.

    But you should have said ‘to get a response’ anyway, to satisfy my plain English itch 😉

    kelvin
    Full Member

    Sounds too American to me, and doesn’t have the same specificity of meaning. Right, need to get myself another coffee…

    jamesoz
    Full Member

    Whilst I have disagreed with pretty much everything CG has ever said about covid, I don’t think the 2 are comparable

    She comes on here with her sincerely held opinion and that’s fair enough even if most think it’s nonsense. She is also from what I can see a pretty regular contributor to numerous other threads

    Fair. My Apologies to CG.

    I was annoyed I couldn’t go to the pub due to the aledgedly non existent virus.
    Good shout actually as still feeling properly ropey today.

    theotherjonv
    Full Member

    Presumably there are already teams working on this kind of thing in companies like Google and Apple?

    Yes, lots. But we’re more specifically looking at trustworthy ML. Most ML, as we sort of see above is black boxy, the machine doesn’t / can’t explain why it makes the decisions / conclusions it does. Working in a metrology lab, we’re looking both at AI/ML to improve data analysis and understanding, but also how to measure the accuracy of AI/ML.

    Old webinar but a useful explanation

    https://www.npl.co.uk/news/machine-learning

    and more depth

    https://eprintspublications.npl.co.uk/9306/1/MS34.pdf

    anyway – covid deniers, cah!

    boardmanfs18
    Full Member

    Thanks Martin, waiting for the out of hours GP to call as that’s who 111 referred me to, waiting for the piriton to kick in!

    kelvin
    Full Member

    Do you have someone looking after you? Or at least that can check up on you? Shingles isn’t fun, if it is that.

    Thanks for the links Jon.

    boardmanfs18
    Full Member

    Kelvin, I do but she’s got Covid too! I don’t think its shingles as it looks like urticaria https://www.yourcovidrecovery.nhs.uk/post-hospital/effects-on-your-body/skin-problems/

    I just hope it doesn’t last months 😳

    ernielynch
    Free Member

    As for the false information not having any consequences – utter rubbish.

    Yup, someone posted earlier on the very significant differences in covid related deaths between Republican and Democrat supporters, which says it all really.

    However quoting Voltaire’s opinions of the medical profession a few hundred years ago, or denying that diseases can be infectious, is highly unlikely to have any effect on the average STWer beyond revealing to them just how daft covid conspiracy theorists are.

    Klunk
    Free Member

    the biggest take from the paper that article was based on was the divergence in the Deaths (between GOP & Dems) didn’t start until the mass distribution vaccines.

    Overall, our results suggest that political party affiliation only became a substantial risk
    factor in Ohio and Florida after vaccines were widely available.

    TiRed
    Full Member

    First Saturday club ride since covid. And that’s my covid in April 2020. Mornings are not great but got around 80km with the middle group. Feeling it now though. Legs are sore but chest a bit achey too. First group ride on gears too (normally fixed). I’ve done a few evening club rides too.

    Covid has left me not a mornings person!

    Skepticism is healthy, and scientists can be very skeptical. Disinformation is dangerous. With some prominent examples of people who have suffered unnecessarily due to their choices.

    fossy
    Full Member

    Just rolling past week 2 of feeling rough. Managed 7 days after testing positive still WFH as felt ‘reasonable. Roll on last 3 days and went downhill raidly. Coughing and couldn’t breath. Gasping going upstairs. Stayed in bed late last 3 days as haven’t slept. Can’t say it’s improving much, got some taste and smell back, but very wheezy. I’m likely to be back in the office next week, but not till I do a test. Not even thinking of riding as I usually cycle commute – I’ll take the car for a week or two.

    This is, however, exactly as I was in December 19 – I’d had two colleagues come back from Woohan !

    tpbiker
    Free Member

    This is, however, exactly as I was in December 19 – I’d had two colleagues come back from Woohan !

    So, if the theory of diseases being infectious is correct (now debatable from what I’ve learned in last 24 hrs), pretty much you would have been the UK’s patient zero and the last 2 years have all been your fault..??

    😉

    tjagain
    Full Member

    now debatable from what I’ve learned in last 24 hrs

    Citation?

    tpbiker
    Free Member

    Citation?

    Not sure if my sarcasm has gone over your head there TJ or whether yours has gone over mine!!😂

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    First Saturday club ride since covid. And that’s my covid in April 2020. Mornings are not great but got around 80km with the middle group. Feeling it now though. Legs are sore but chest a bit achey too. First group ride on gears too (normally fixed). I’ve done a few evening club rides too.

    That’s good to hear, even if you’re not quite back to normal. The hidden burden of long covid on individuals, the NHS, and the wider economy, will be significant for years to come.

    Drac
    Full Member

    Yeah, that’s fair enough to a degree, BUT….. the opinion of a poster in a debate (however skewed you may believe that to be) has been silenced in the way of a snooze for a little while, yet the ones actually dishing out abuse have been ‘told’ via a post in the thread? Surely you can see the issue here?

    Others were moderated too, warnings handed out. The idea of the broadcast was to stop anymore to make life easier for us. Sadly didn’t go to plan.

    VR was given a break for their behaviour not their views.

    tjagain
    Full Member

    Not sure if my sarcasm has gone over your head there TJ

    Whooshed right over me – Do’h

    MoreCashThanDash
    Full Member

    That’s good to hear, even if you’re not quite back to normal. The hidden burden of long covid on individuals, the NHS, and the wider economy, will be significant for years to come.

    Yep, good to hear you’re making progress.

    Did a club ride the other weekend. Me and another guy both finding it harder work than it should be after Covid, and one of the other riders, who has podiumed at national level, is part of a long Covid study and has been restricted to Zone 2 riding for 8 months now.

    TiRed
    Full Member

    That’s good to hear, even if you’re not quite back to normal.

    I am hoping titanium is a cure for long covid. Bought a new bike to help with recovery. Fixed wheel Enigma Echo. The clue is in the username.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    VR was given a break for their behaviour not their views.

    But you know they’re going to come back triumphantly squealing about free speech and censorship, of course.

    frankconway
    Full Member

    ASTR – I referred to VR as he/she/it on the basis I had no way of determining if the posts were emanating from a male, a female or a bot so I covered all the options.
    As for VR taking a short break, it should be a long break – but I’m not a mod.

    oldenough
    Free Member

    As for VR taking a short break, it should be a long break – but I’m not a mod.

    A permanent break really. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but not a platform to express them. As others have said the absolute rubbish he and a couple of others were spouting have negative consequences. There are vulnerable people who see such nonsense as validation of their own ill thought out opinions. People have died who didn’t have to because of this anti vaccination BS.

    ernielynch
    Free Member

    There are vulnerable people who see such nonsense as validation of their own ill thought out opinions.

    Well it gives you a perfect opportunity to challenge their nonsense. I don’t understand the need to rush to permanently ban people.

    I don’t for a minute believe that veganrider changed the mind of one single person on here, other than convince them even more how daft covid deniers/conspiracy theorists are.

    There was nothing actually offensive with vegan rider’s claims such as that infectious diseases and viruses don’t exist, what imo was challenging about his/her behaviour was the sheer avalanche of nonsense which ended up completely overwhelming the thread.

    As previously claimed by Drac it was veganriders behaviour that got him/her a ban, not their beliefs. Which seems perfectly fair to me.

    I think everyone should have the right to say that viruses don’t exist, for example, if that’s what they believe, especially when it can be challenged. Veganrider wasn’t making the claim in a environment where there was no chance that it would be challenged.

    Del
    Full Member

    Quite. But doing the equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears when confronted and shit-posting with a high repetition rate got them unpopular real quick.

    Writing style and basic standpoints had more than a little in common with the person who used to sporadically register as a new user and post about lockdowns killing people, no such thing as COVID, it’s all a big plot etc. etc until the inevitable ban or posting porn before the inevitable ban.

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