Where to put a bit of inheritance money…
Right, so I’m due to inherit some money* in the UK (half of Dad’s estate, plus eventually half the proceeds of his house if we ever manage to sell it). I am an EU resident and don’t have a UK address. This money needs to go somewhere so AFAICS I’ve got two choices – open a basic bank account in the UK (which they are obliged to give me I think), or get it transferred to my Spanish account in EUR.
I prefer the first option atm as I don’t need the money for anything immediately, and I guess moving it to EUR will be quite expensive.
Third option might be to open an multi currency account (eg Transferwise) and get it sent there but I know nothing about them.
The Spanish taxman will want a slice too – I need to look into that. I’m also aware that come the end of the year, the B-word might complicate things.
Any words of wisdom? I am utterly crap with anything money related.
*Don’t know exactly how much, but I’d imagine around 100k after it gets divvied upPosted 5 months ago
Spain taxes something that UK already taxed?
uk tax might not be that bad, depending on how big the estate is:
£325k is tax free; if it’s involving a house being gifted to children, that goes up to £500k tax free
then 40% on the remainder.Posted 5 months ago
Won’t be taxed as income in the UK. The estate would be taxed before it gets to you (if over the nil rate band). If you keep it here interest on it over an amount would be taxed (but you won’t be broaching that any time soon).
Exchange rate into Euro is shit, and there may be teouble for tbe Euro ahead, so I’d suggest keeping it in pounds as a hedge against euro tanking.Posted 5 months ago
I’m not sure the obligation for Banks to offer free basic accounts includes non-doms.Posted 5 months ago
If you’re in Spain sure euros are better.
I cant see the pound being a better bet?Posted 5 months ago
The Spanish taxman will want a slice too
He hasn’t taxed the inheritence I got when my mother died, and I moved a fair chunk over here a few years ago to buy a flat. To facilitate the transfer I opened an account in the UK as a non-resident, but it was a bit of a faff and you need to be there to present your passport etc. Mine’s with Lloyds FWIW, but that was more to convenience rather than any particular preference.Posted 5 months ago
Exchange rate into Euro is shit, and there may be teouble for tbe Euro ahead, so I’d suggest keeping it in pounds as a hedge against euro tanking.
Not sure what you’ve been smoking to make you think prospects for the Euro are worse than the pound with a no-deal Brexs*it looming.Posted 5 months ago
We were comfortably under the inheritance tax threshold, so Spain *shouldn’t* tax it… we’ll see. I’ve just sent my accountant a mail, see what she reckons.
Re banks, I’d like to avoid having to open a UK account if I can. Does something like transferwise look like a legit way of doing that? Might be better in the long term if either the pound or the euro tanks…Posted 5 months ago
What about buying the other half share of the house and letting it. Returns on cash are next to nothing. Or max out on premium bonds but the prizes are taxed as income in Spain.
Long term rents in Spain attract a 70% income tax allowance.
I wouldn’t transfer a load of GBP into euros at the current rate, 1.12, maybe 1.2 plus is ok ish.Posted 5 months ago
Not sure what you’ve been smoking to make you think prospects for the Euro are worse than the pound with a no-deal Brexs*it looming.
Pound has already lost a lot of its value. Covid and its impact in Eurozone has thrown a total curve ball on what was expected to happen to wxchange rates this year so some sentiment that Euro isn’t the currency to run to that it was previously thought to be.
But i accept, if you never have any intention of spending pounds get it transferred for simplicity.Posted 5 months ago
C&HPosted 5 months ago
If you don’t “need” the money, then now is a really good time to start a long term investment plan (>10 years) as you get a lot of stocks n shares for your money!Posted 5 months ago
I agree with the previous commentator, if you do not need this money, then put it on a deposit for several years.Posted 5 months ago
I think that’s the way forward.Posted 5 months ago
Coincidentally, the solicitor just told me that we need to sell the house first before the estate is ‘complete’ (didn’t know that, told you I was crap with these things) so it’ll be a while before we start divvying it up. Probate is granted, can put the house up for sale but I can’t see there being much demand at the moment.
Given the current state of the world and the impending collapse of society, i’d invest it all in steel.
Ideally, you’d want the steel to be in the shape of guns and machetes and the like.Posted 5 months ago
Also razor wire. Losts of razor wire.
Buy shares in crossbows.Posted 5 months ago
Re the Inheritance Tax thing.
The estate is subject to UK inheritance tax so it has already been ‘Taxed’. It is just that it was taxed at 0% because it fell beneath the Inheritance Tax personal allowances. Therefore the Spanish won’t have any call on the money.
The difference between UK and Spanish (most European countries) Inheritance Tax is that in the UK the tax is levied on the estate before it goes to the beneficiaries, whereas in Spain the tax is levied on the beneficiaries.Posted 5 months ago
Anyone thinking about gold?Posted 5 months ago
Gold is an at all time high recently.
What’s the deal with buying gold? You can get it from the Royal Mint and store it there – is it easy to sell without getting fleeced?
I bought some crypto recently, but it’s quite a gamble. Don’t want large amounts of cash in there as it can lose 50% of its value overnight.Posted 5 months ago
Was going to say Gold…Posted 5 months ago
If a bank account, then something Starling where you don’t get charged for using it in different currency…so if Euro improves and you have it in a starling account, you could transfer at current exchange rate without additional charges (as far as I know – and I also have no idea about tax on that, if any).
Anyone thinking about gold?
Thorin Oakenshield.Posted 5 months ago
NS&I whilst you get a better planPosted 5 months ago
Anyone else disappointed with bentandbroken’s link?Posted 5 months ago
I was in the same position as you and live in France. I opened a Transferwise account and the solicitor transferred the money into it.Posted 5 months ago
Very easy to access and change to euros at bank rate, everything is virtually instant.
Seriously you don’t want to be thinking about transferring pounds to euros any time soon. Far better to invest in the Uk for the medium term Ideally in safe stocks and shares.
The market is recovering from its massive falls , but there’s a long way to go to get back to pre covid levels. So whilst there will be ups and downs ahead….history suggests you’ll make great returns if you are patient.Posted 5 months ago
@timbo46 can I ask, which TransferWise account? The multicurrency one?Posted 5 months ago
Investing, I dunno. I literally have no idea, I’d have to go to an advisor.
WCA meeds a start up fund for his online poker launch or Campaign trail.Posted 5 months ago
Just the standard Transferwise account, they send you a debit card to use if you want to, and can move part or all of your money into different currencies and back again instantly.Posted 5 months ago
For example I transferred some pounds into euros just before the election at 1.20, and back to pounds again a few weeks later at 1.10.
I’d be cautious about leaving a large balance with transferwise long term. As far as I understand it’s not covered by the UK FSCS, or any other EU deposit protection scheme. We are entering uncertain territory economy wise, but it’s true at any time. If suggest splitting an inheritance across multiple banks with ensuring no one account exceeds the deposit protection limit a golden rule. Anything in unprotected utility accounts should be limited to reasonably foreseeable spending.Posted 5 months ago
Lots of experts on commodities and foreign exchange on here!
Unless you think you have a competitive advantage over the professional financial analysts of this world then don’t worry about speculating here. No one knows what gold and forex is going to do. The price has been set by the market with half thinking it’s too high and half too low.
Best thing to do if looking at 5-10 years plus is invest in something that produces a return. This would be shares in companies, bonds or property.
My first advice, as a fellow expat, would be to read “millionaire expat” by Andrew Hallam.
I’d then invest it all in a two fund portfolio of:
80% shares index tracker:
VWCE Vanguard FTSE All-World UCITS ETF Accumulation
20% global bonds EUR hedged
IGLE iShares Global Govt Bond UCITS ETF
This would be diversified across 3600+ companies globally and all the major stable government bonds. All for two funds.
I’d then not touch it for 10 years.Posted 5 months ago
Consensus on city wire is pound is due to tank, this year, next year, sometime because of Brexit plus virus recession. Portfolio is currently 2% off original cost after several years mainly propped up by SSON. Might pull the whole lot in early mid June and exit my ISA before they start taxing that.Posted 5 months ago
Euro is also suspect so I was looking at Swiss bank deposit account.
All declared and legal but the best I can come up with as ‘safe’.
Consensus on city wire is pound is due to tank, this year, next year, sometime because of Brexit plus virus recession.
Love a bit of random speculation!
1 Euro = 89.93p as of today. Let’s see what happens!Posted 5 months ago
Love a bit of random speculation!
I have called seven of the last two crashes so happy to say I know I don’t know what will happen but I choose not to sit on my hands.Posted 5 months ago
Seven out of two is a hell of ratio. Can’t argue with that.Posted 5 months ago
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