- where can i get some EPO? (dope content)
A friend thought he’d go full retro and mix amphetamine and champagne (this was the early nineties and we were young and skint – it would have been Lambrusco) for a club 10 to see how it felt. Intention was to DNF but close enough to the finish that he had a meaningful time to compare. He ended up half a mile from the finish in a ditch thinking he was having a heart attack and too afraid to ask for help because he knew how wired he looked.
I don’t advise.Posted 8 months agotpbikerMember
Creatine will make you retain water so makes you heavier..not ideal for cycling up hills.
I read a tale about how the tdf doctors had to wake the riders up in the middle of the night to get them on the turbo for 20 min so their blood wouldn’t solidify due to all the epo they’d been taking. If you have a wife who is prepared to do this for you then fill your boots..Posted 8 months agoMSPMember
I actually looked into this a while ago, I have absolutely no moral qualms about taking (performance enhancing) drugs to increase my enjoyment of sports, especially as I get older testosterone replacement therapy seems quite attractive, even just to slow the decline into old age.
It isn’t that hard to get hold of stuff online, there are forums (mainly for bodybuilding) where if you do your research you can find the genuine suppliers. Obviously most PED’s are muscle builders so not fully suitable for cycling. However it should be noted that what most PEDS do is allow you to train hard then recover faster, allowing you to improve through hard work, they are not a shortcut, so for cycling they would allow you to cycle more frequently and harder, but it will not be “easier”.
EPO was quite expensive, prohibitively so.
TRT is the one that made most sense IMO, but I think for me I would want to be supervised by a doctor, it is actually pretty safe as long as you know what you are getting is legit, and don’t overdo the dosages.
And that is where it falls down, if I could buy it from a private consultation with a doctor, get a blood test every other month, it would be safer than drinking a few glasses of wine a week and benefit me much more. But that option isn’t available to me and I am not going to trust the black market so I am out.Posted 8 months agoBoardinBobSubscriber
Supplement wise, I’ve been taking Onnit’s Shroomtech before big rides, and I’ve noticed a definite performance boost which is actually quite easy to evidence.
There’s a lot of science blurb etc and supposed positive results from various trials but the consistent thing I’ve noticed is on the readings from my heart rate monitor. On rides where I don’t take the Shroomtech prior to the ride, I’ll regularly hit 90%+ of my max heart rate and end up blowing up on climbs.
If I do take them before a ride, then my heart rate stays low on climbs and I feel like I’ve got much more in the tank.
Certainly works for me and I’ve been using it for sometime now and I definitely feel it benefits me.Posted 8 months agothisisnotaspoonSubscriber
Have you got power data showing that your power output hasn’t also dropped with your HR?
That’s what I was thinking.
The earlier statement is a bit like saying your car had more left in the tank after driving at lower RPM (your legs being the gearbox in this analogy)
Ironic name too, my flatmates at uni took some shrooms, “on it” was definitely not a descriptor of their motivation levels, unless it was motivation to stare at a bit of abstract art from inches away.Posted 8 months agotrumptonMember
if most PEDS are muscle builders this is bad as with steriod using bodybuilders your heart also grows and can cause real problems.
I am not sure about growth hormone and it’s side affects ( whether it’s dangerous or not ) but I would have thought it reverses old age in men and may be compared to hormone replacement therapy in ladies. This is probably not so though. Plus body builders probably take vast amounts of it to get bigger.Posted 8 months agosomewhatslightlydazedMember
I remember that drugs article people are linking to being discussed on here a few years ago.
The guy reckons HGH was the best one to take long term. I particularly like the bit about old scars healing up and not needing glasses.
But then somebody on here (Njee20?) pointed out taking HGH long term will massively increase your chances of developing all sorts of cancer. That put me off a bit (plus its bloody expensive).Posted 8 months agoandybradSubscriber
Ok so a couple of years ago I got given a load of flourexatine. I went from struggling to do 10 miles to no issues with 20 overnight.
Basically I hear it’s like taking coke and e
I haven’t looked back since. It cant be good for you but it’s better than the alternative for me.Posted 8 months agoTiRedMember
Caffeine doesn’t help before a ride, in my experience.
A clinical pharmacologist writes… most people do not realise that after caffeine ingestion, absorption is relatively slow. Peak concentration is reached about 45 minutes after. So you won’t notice any benefit immediately after taking it.
All the pros take sis double espresso gels and will ALL be dosing heavily with an hour to go in any race.
Caffeine has several metabolic benefits. It adds 5-7 bpm to my max heart rate for one. Useful in a 25. Provided you dose an hour before the start.
PS you have to take a lot for the ergogenic effect. Doses of 8 mpk or about 500 mg have been tested. That’s 10 pro plus tablets or six double espressos. The lethal dose of caffeine was believed to be 14000 mg, but two students survived 30000 mg with emergency dialysis.Posted 8 months agospaniardclimberMember
HGH and Testosterone will make you recover faster but won’t give you a boost, they are used in conjunction with EPO so you can train harder and recover faster.
EPO and corticoids will likely add a few watts to your legs, but only if you train accordingly.
I don’t think there is a miracle drug that gives you a boost without any training…maybe amphetamines…Posted 8 months ago
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