- What racey carbon hardtail at the trail end of the spectrum?
Keen to get myself a carbon hardtail for racing 4/5/6 hour events and the odd team 12/24 thrown in there as well.
Ideally I would like a Whyte 29C which has nice short chain stays and the critical 69deg headangle. I’ve ridden one and really like it. However I don’t think I can get one as frame only.
What others options are available on similar frame? Will be running a 120mm fork and am 5’11”.
I see that Flyxii have a 69deg carbon frame but I’m a little hesitant going down the direct chinese carbon route.Posted 5 years ago
Yeah maybe I’m being too picky about having a fancy frame material and aluminium would do the job nicely.
What I like about a good carbon frame is that they are fast when you put the power down but can be quite compliant over the bumps. Again you might not get that with a cheap chinese job.Posted 5 years agothisisnotaspoonSubscriber
+1 for not rulling out alu.
As for HA, 69 is pretty slack, while I appreciate it’s personal preferance I think you could think about it more holisticly, especialy as you mentioned shorts CS’s. I think wheelbase probably has more bearing on bike handling than the other measurements, especialy as slack HA is generaly coupled with a short stem to make it feel similarl to steep and a long stem (then a longer TT to keep reach consistent, and push the wheelbase out further giving even more sability).
Short CS + slack HA = medium wheelbase
long CS + steep HA = similalry medium weelbase.
My El Mariachi has a 72 HA and quite long stays, and I’d say I use it for more ‘trail’ than ‘XC’. I’d never have asked for it to be slacker/shorter like the 2014 version, which may be ‘better’ but I’ve not ridden it. But then I think it’s more to do with skills/balls than bikes, most XC races are probably more technical than most weekend warriors would describe as ‘trail’.Posted 5 years ago
Wat about one of these instead then? 😉Posted 5 years agoesher shoreMember
I have a Stumpjumper Expert carbon 29’er setup as “Evo” with 750mm bars, 75mm stem, 100mm forks, 1 x 10 gearing and big tires
works very nicely for fast trail riding, but could easily be “raced” if necessary probably by swapping the tires and perhaps a dual chainring at the frontPosted 5 years agoDT78Member
scott scale is 69.5 with 100mm fork. Might have more chance of picking up a second hand frame than a whyte. I test rode the whyte c and the scale back to back. The whyte felt better on the downs but overall the scale was faster by quite a margin, I reckon the ‘feel’ was down to the carbon wheels which meant the whyte was twice the price of the scale.
I went with the scale (in the sales…920) and bought some light bicycle rims to play with…. about £2k cheaper than the whyte…
If I didn’t keep getting punctures on descents I would be faster on the downs than my nomad. So will be investing in bigger tyres and tubeless for trail centres.Posted 5 years ago
Bit off the wall… but for racing this would be awesome:Posted 5 years ago
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