What is the bullet-proof wheel build?

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  • Premier Icon ton

    i have for sale the bombprof wheelset.
    suitable for the imense mass that is me 21stone….

    xt hubs built with sapim strong spokes on sun doubletrack rims.

    Premier Icon ton

    front is 15mm bolt thru, but i will split..

    Pro2 hubs on mavic 721's would be good, or sun singletracks. Not the strongest but probably a good compromise between weight and strength, but erring on the side of strength.

    Alot of downhill riders run them and I run them on my hardtail


    Mavic 823s on Pro2 is my bombproof set. I'm the same weight as you and have done 4ft to flat on them with no probs.

    Premier Icon firestarter

    pro two on xm321 are my big bang ones ๐Ÿ™‚


    Mashed up the Alex rims that came as standard issue on my Genesis Altitude 20 today. They are only 3 or 4 months old.

    From their website:
    Hubs Shimano Deore Centre-lock Disc
    Rims Alex XR100D Disc 32h black

    Photo here – http://twitpic.com/daagk
    Bent like a banana from a jump down 4 steps with a clunky landing. (It's the steps at the very end of this uninspiring but short video).

    Given that I weigh 17 stone / 110 kg, and like to ride hard and do lots of jumpy stuff, I need advice on the ultimate wheel set up, as I'd rather pay more and get the right gear that'll last than go through this loop every 3 months.

    Most of my riding is on technical singletrack or hills (rather than granite or real mountains) but as I say it's also interspersed with steps and anything I think I can get a lift off ๐Ÿ™‚

    The frame is a Genesis Altitude 20 19".

    Please tell me what the killer set up should be for me?
    Make it solid like a rock ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

    Premier Icon Chipbutty

    Hope pro2s with DT Swiss 5.1 rims, mine have taken some hammering and still run true.


    sun double tracks on hadley with thick guage spokes


    Older Mavic D321s can be snapped up on Ebay quite often…

    Tuff as Fook!

    I had some on Mavic D321s and they were suitably hammerproof


    MTX rims. Super heavy duty.


    As jedi's recomendation – if weight is of no consequence, Doubletrack/Intense Mag rims (same rim)

    823 on hope bulbs (if you can find em) a close second.

    721s are my fav all round rim though, easily as strong dent wise and v.nearly latterally as 321s with an almost 200g weight loss making them fine even for XC use in my book.


    Given that they came on the bike as new, its more than likley that the wheels were factory built which tend not to be as well tensioned as handbuilt wheels. Have you had them retensioned since new? If not, then you could expect them to become unevenly tensioned. Being in far from perfectly even tension would explain why its buckled somewhat?
    Gently stand on it to get it to run through the frame again and get it retensioned/retrued and see how it goes from there maybe?

    Premier Icon coolhandluke

    I've got 729 rims and found them to be bomb proof (18 stone of hard (harttail) riding has proved it)

    normal spokes (as used by Merlin cycles but can't remember the name) a 300 quid Chris King rear hub and a 20 quid superstar front hub.

    ghetto tubeless 2.5 High rollers too with about 20psi in there.


    d321 (old rims) with Hope's finest. Nowt more needed.


    Mavic 729 on Pro2. I've given mine a severe DH/freeride punishing at places including innerleithen and ft. william and they are still straight and true! Cannot reccomend them enough and, if you are anywhere near Glasgow the guy @ Wheelcraft I used to build my wheels did an amazing job – it's not only is it about geting the right rim/hub combo but more important is the quality of the build.


    Just get a set of Deemax and be done with it.


    second what james said – build is arguably a lot more important than components.

    A well built lightweight rim will take a lot more punishment than a poorly laced big tough rim. Find a wheel builder you trust and keep the wheels maintained (ie straight)O so that they always havew the best chance.

    Learn to do it yourself to save a bit of cash – its really not that hard.

    roger will sort you out http://www.wheelpro.co.uk

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    +1 for D321 or even D521 (rim brake version of 321 – may be cheaper).

    Hubs? what ever you can get really.


    I'm not familiar with your rims but HTF did you bend 'em so badly on those tiny steps !! ๐Ÿ˜†

    Compared to how weak your current rims are, my mavic 719's can withstand a medium strength thermo nuclear strike ๐Ÿ˜‰


    If you're down here in Brighton I suggest getting Freedom bikes in Kemp town to build you up a set of Mavic 729s on hope pro2 hubs.

    Stamner park is good, have you been to Friston forest yet?


    i've got some Syncros DPS32's on factory hubs that, although expensive, appear to be nukeproof! Not particularly heavy either.


    729s, Sapim Srong spokes on Hadley hubs on the big bike.

    721s on Hope Pro 3 SPAM4 hubs on the everyday bike.


    Once again in awe of the stw smarts. Thanks you bike gods.

    @Woodey – once but ended up taking a wrong turn and finished early on the walkers path :(. Do you recommend it? The red trail or is there other stuff? Thanks for Freedom tip.

    @enhft lol!!! That's what I thought ๐Ÿ˜€

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    I'm 18st & recently split my Bontrager Rhythm's & snapped several spokes. Bought some second hand (a bit pricey new) DT2350's with matching hubs. Touch wood they've been great so far…


    Im 17St and currently have a Hope XC with EN521 on the rear. Seems pretty strong so far…


    pro2's on 719s or 819s

    Stans Flows on Goldtec All Mountain hubs,but as others have hinted get them built by somebody that knows what they're doing.

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