Read a couple of threads today, Ton and his glue sniffing, kingkongsfinger and his photo stealing and the anti car stuff with Zaskar and the almost incedent. The occasional appearance of the "my car will go faster than your car" threads, the how to avoid paying a speeding ticket/parking fine threads.

What do you consider is an acceptable law to break?

Riding a bike with no brakes,

Selling a bike without a bell and reflectors.

No one must get hurt, now or in the future.

As buzz says.
It's almost impossible to go through life without breaking some law that's been quietly introduced. With some 3-4000 every year, on top of existing legislation how can anyone keep track. They say ignorance is no excuse, but it's not feasible for non-legal people to know what's on the books.

Coveting thy neighbor's wife.

Bar ends with riser bars.

Enjoying the music of Enya.

the one

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t get caught for 😯

Anything drug related is fair game. What the **** its got to do with the authorities what i decide to shove up my nose, down my throat is beyond me

Anything drug related is fair game.

Only if the corollary to this statement is the legalisation of supply… as opposed to near-civil war.

The coke has to come from somewhere, innit?

Its the fact that its illegal that is the route of the whole problem.

Its completely unenforcable posturing by macho governments who go to increasingly stupid and expensive lengths to deny whats obviously happening in the real world

"An it harm none, do what ye will."

Its completely unenforcable

I suspect the Polis would agree.

Spending hours reading Ton and TJ bitching at each other, it's got to be an eco crime if nothing else .

any crime beginning with the letter 'Y'.

and why will i never again be able to read a post here without assuming the poster has been sniffing glue prior to bashing the keys?

🙂

Binners if you believe your end use has no bearing porblems of drugs and organised crime then you are at best in denial. One more snowflake accepting no responsibility for the avalanche. I certainly don't believe the law is infalible, right or even sensible but I don't think you can claim any distance from the crime any more than someone buying ivory or protected birds eggs can claim to be just an innocent customer. I respect and understand the want / need to use but please have a think.

On a different tangent. I'm no lawyer but i believe it is a defence in court if you commit a crime in order to prevent a more serious one.

A while ago some women broke into a BAE systems facility and damaged some trainer aircraft to the tune of 6 figures. In court they argued that the planes were to be sold to indonesia where they would be refitted not as trainers but with weapons and used against civilians in East Timor. The judge listened to both sides and accepted that BAE knew fine that the jets would be used in that capacity and let the women go free. I may have the details a bit fuzzy but that's my version of events

Binners if you believe your end use has no bearing porblems of drugs and organised crime then you are at best in denial.

Binners can defend himself but I think he means the criminalised conduct itself harms no-one, only the conduct in the context of criminalisation that harms others (through organised crime, civil war, theft etc).

To put it another way: punching people in the face is both illegal (generally) and causes harm to others. If you made it illegal, it would still cause harm to others because it is inherently a harmful-to-others thing. I suspect Binners would argue that the same is not true for drug consumption…but I will leave it to him to confirm or deny.

Fair enough Kona, I completely agree. I hate the govenment legislating for my good. It's hypocritical, patronising and offensive. It's particularly patronising when you hear how the CIA controls the flow of stuff from Afganistan.

Binners if you want to grow your own and do what you want with it then I'm not your keeper and I'll support your right to do it legally whether i'd do it myself or not. It might makes you a more mellow, less troublesome member of society depending on what you're using. If that is the context of your remark then i'm sorry i misinterpreted. It's none of my business. Diffenert story if you are making / using ice and attacing nurses when you get brought into the local A&E. I live in a semi rural area prone to bush fire. A couple of months ago I nearly lost my house to a fire started when a drug lab blew up 2 km up the road.

My point is that you can't divorce the use of drugs sourced via organised crime from the effects of organised crime for the rest of us. I suspect most governments are at some level corrupt and involved in that organised crime.

My point is that you can't divorce the use of drugs sourced via organised crime from the effects of organised crime for the rest of us. I suspect most governments are at some level corrupt and involved in that organised crime.

binners said "Its the fact that its illegal that is the route of the whole problem.", I understand that to mean he's in favour of legalisation, which would remove most of the organised crime problem.

To the OP:
* Speeding on empty motorways
* Personal drug use
* Blasphemy and any offensive speech not calculated to incite violence.
* Street photography 🙂

3-4000 every year, on top of existing legislation

Say what now? Where's that figure been hauled up from?

File sharing as long as you buy stuff that you actually really like/use. 😛

Import duty evasion is seemingly quite acceptable on here. I suspect self-employed tax evasion is also fairly common.

don simon – Member
Read a couple of threads today, Ton and his glue sniffing, kingkongsfinger and his photo stealing and the anti car stuff with Zaskar and the almost incedent. The occasional appearance of the "my car will go faster than your car" threads, the how to avoid paying a speeding ticket/parking fine threads.

What do you consider is an acceptable law to break?

Anti car? no way just silly drivers/riders who nearly kill you. Mistakes happen but a careless death really gets me.

And no breaking the law is acceptable but its about getting caught and punishment for laws vary. Follow rules too closely and you'll get nowhere, break them very badly and you're nicked sonny.

johnners – Member

3-4000 every year, on top of existing legislation

Say what now? Where's that figure been hauled up from?

Given the legislative hyperactivity which appears to have become a permanent feature of our governance – in 2004, some 3500 pages of primary legislation; in 2003, nearly 9000 pages of statutory instruments – the sheer volume of current legislation raises serious problems of accessibility, despite the internet.

Octo-porn

My father always told me that 'it's not breaking the Law unless you get caught'

so….erm…. anything is fair game, just don't get caught! 😉

Anything that can harm you and not others is fair game IMO.

Peace out.

Seeing if your car can ever get to the magical 100mph on an empty motorway.
Wanting to harm somebody after reading TJ's droning.
Riding a motorbike without a helmet properly fastened onto your head.
Racing DH in lycra (not sure of this one as it's criminal 😉 ).

On a long hot summers evening soon….

ride your bike without a helmet or gloves. It feels like a return to the old days. Trust me.

Octo-porn

*waits for Superstar to bring out an 'Octoporn is not a crime' t-shirt

Remove the gangs and drug related crime by making it a regulated industry that pays taxes. There you go – most of the bad parts of drugs magically vanish, and the government gets a nice cut via the taxes too.

I've yet to hear of gang warfare in the highlands between whisky distillers…

hora +1

What crimes are acceptable

Some of these?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_the_law

battering a burgler

hora, why wait for summer?

hunting with dogs will be fair game soon 😯

Based on my daughters experience this week, it's acceptable to grab someone by the throat and hit them in the face……

+1 Firestarter,
you enter my home without permision, you lose all your rights.

I think our new leader(s) might be on my side here too.

Going a "few" mph over the speed limit on open/empty roads?

Weeing in shoes

Owning with Bombers

Come on….

* Street photography

Despite what some PCSOs may think, this isn't illegal…

suprise sex?*

* so long as you shout 'suprise' first? right…???

Seeing if your car can ever get to the magical 100mph on an empty motorway.

I think that this type of law should be flexible, a fast car being driven quickly by a competent driver is less dangerous than a car being driven within the limit by a twunt.

Downloading movies or TV show which have already been shown on TV. Either I download it or record it. If I record it, how does anyone know?

firestarter – Member

battering a burgler
Well it's like this your honor, I always get up at 3am and swing the baseball bat, how was I supposed to know the theiving **** was there???

Never seen the attraction of drugs myself…

Octopron? Live or dead?

highclimber – Member

My father always told me that 'it's not breaking the Law unless you get caught'

so….erm…. anything is fair game, just don't get caught!

And doesn't hurt anyone. 😆

Apparently there are lots of things that are permitted but shouldn't be:
Big Brother.
Any reality TV show.
Chris Moyles to namea few. 😉