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  • Sancho
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    how homophobic your comments are, i take it your limp wristed comment is a gay reference

    I havent noticed many gay men walking around with limp wrists like dick emery, I guess you are still living in the 70’s

    project
    Member

    no.the ocasional gay man or woman ive met are definately not limp wristed or weak, but usually well spoken, decisive, and say what they feel.

    06awjudd
    Member

    how homophobic your comments are, i take it your limp wristed comment is a gay reference

    Quite judgemental don’t you think? The guy is complaining about a lack of support for gay footballers and you declare him a homophobe.

    Limp-wrists aren’t a refrence to homosexuality any more than a lack of a back-bone is. It just refers to a lack of moral or physical strength. Unless of course you think that makes someone a homosexual?

    Jamie
    Member

    I’m sure they have their reasons, in the same way Jason Roberts, et al, did when not wearing the Kick Out Racism T-shirts.

    Sancho
    Member

    Limp-wrists isn’t a refrence to homosexuality any more than a lack of a back-bone is.

    you need to do some research in to this as it is a very obvious camp gay characteristic the media has played on for decades and its just sad as it is a pathetic stereotype

    project
    Member

    My reference to limp wristed was meant to point out the footballers or management could put their hand up and say yes look at me, i support the cause, as opposed to being limp wristed and going with the masses, for fear of being seen as not one of the gang.

    Sancho
    Member

    dont be a dick 06, you know what i mean, it comes from the larry grayson, camp gay 70’s stereotypes that are out of date and stupid, but linking to a web site is clearly the singletrack way of being stupid to back your argument instead of looking in to what the issue is.

    06awjudd
    Member

    Yeah it can be used to steretype homosexuals, but project quite clearly meant that he thought they lacked moral backbone.
    Ironic Stupid to call someone a homophobe for making a pro-gay equality thread IMO.

    project
    Member

    its now 2013, not the seventies, when sex with under 21 year olds was illegal, and section 21 was being dreamed about, where civil partnerships where a long way off dream for a lot of people,and where it was a dismissable offence in the armed forces.

    wrecker
    Member

    no.the ocasional gay man or woman ive met are definately not limp wristed or weak, but usually well spoken, decisive, and say what they feel.

    Yep, my token gay friend is like that. He’s also like a dog with two dicks 😀

    and where it was a dismissable offence in the armed forces

    It was in the 90s!

    Premier Icon teethgrinder
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    **** hell. Any excuse for a an argument in this place. Not every post or sentence had a hidden connotation.

    It,s almost like some of those footballers are trying to hide something…..

    Much as I commend Stonewall and wholeheartedly support their campaigns, it might have been a better idea to consult clubs first before landing them with a Paddy Power branded box of shoelaces, and as much as saying “Here, wear these on Saturday and you don’t, you’re homophobic.”

    I’m somewhat suspicious of Paddy Power’s motives. Anyone would think they were trying to rescue a bit of good PR after having their ladies day ad pulled for being transphobic earlier in the year. FFS, do gambling companies have to stick their arses into everything these days?!? 😐

    project
    Member

    But thats what makes this forum so intresting, the jesting and joshing, along with covering certain subjects in a multitude of different ways, without actually fighting.

    project
    Member

    I’m somewhat suspicious of Paddy Power’s motives. Anyone would think they were trying to rescue a bit of good PR after having their ladies day ad pulled for being transphobic earlier in the year. FFS, do gambling companies have to stick their arses into everything these days?!?

    all good advertising, and a talking point, i wasnt aware of paddy power and hate football.

    athgray
    Member

    I think the OP was outlining the stereotype in order to bring notice to the cause. You seem to have taken this badly sancho. I am sure no offence was meant.

    all good advertising, and a talking point, i wasnt aware of paddy power and hate football.

    Well, it was in the story to which you linked project. Did you not read it? So, what’s the objective? Support for the gays, or using the homophobia you’re perceiving as an excuse to have a go at football?

    stumpy01
    Member

    teethgrinder +1.

    Premier Icon terrahawk
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    good grief.

    Premier Icon Lifer
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    Yep seems the issue isn’t with Stonewall, laces or the campaign in general but Paddy Power’s involvement.

    I don’t think Paddy Power should be using this as a advertising tool, IMO Stonewall scored an own goal on this one.

    BOOOOOOOM.

    IanMunro
    Member

    How limp wristed and weak willed not to support possibly fellow players,supporters,and sponsors,by the simple use of coloured laces,and get the message accross people are still being discriminated in sport because of their sexuality.

    I trust you’ll be sporting rainbow laces on all your work shoes from now to help get the message across too.

    Junkyard
    Member

    I cant think how you could have made your point worse than your OP.
    Well done as you did it by not actually reading the link you posted to.

    AWESOME

    Jamie
    Member

    **** hell. Any excuse for a an argument in this place. Not every post or sentence had a hidden connotation.

    You spill my pint!?!?!? 😡

    project
    Member

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24161011

    How limp wristed and weak willed not to support possibly fellow players,supporters,and sponsors,by the simple use of coloured laces,and get the message accross people are still being discriminated in sport because of their sexuality.

    Pity some of the major sponsors cant/want, put it their contracts or they withdraw their funding.

    Junkyard
    Member

    Pretty sure you dropped it yourself , you are so limp wristed

    Jamie
    Member

    Pretty sure you dropped it yourself , you are so limp wristed

    You calling my pint queer?!?! 😡

    on the subject of limp wristedness and other 70’s gay stereotyping

    when a box, covered in branding from betting agency Paddy Power, was delivered to their training grounds with the tagline ‘Right Behind Gay Footballers’.

    piemonster
    Member

    Hmm, I thought the whole ‘limp wrist’ thing was earlier than that.

    Google time.

    Junkyard
    Member

    it has two meaning – lacks back bone and also effeminate so used as slang/derogatory term/ slur against gay people who were often perceived , and sometimes still are, as soft and effeminate and not very manly

    I assume we can accept this without google

    Jamie
    Member

    Google time.

    First hit off Google image search for ‘limp wrist’:

    piemonster
    Member

    Hmm, I didn’t go with image search.

    My first hit came back with a reference at least going back to the early 20th century.

    Anyway, you chaps get back to your errr… debating.

    Jamie
    Member

    Looks a fun night out…

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX4i8mtv-78[/video]

    Anyway, you chaps get back to your errr… debating.

    Mass debating if you ask me.

    but it’s what makes STW sooo much fun. It’s miles better than the telly, in fact I’m thinking of doing away with my TV licence.

    Premier Icon teethgrinder
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    Go on!

    piemonster
    Member

    Looks like an ordinary Saturday night at Northwold Social Club

    Jamie
    Member

    in fact I’m thinking of doing away with my TV licence.

    You should start a thread on that 😐

    Premier Icon kimbers
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    I think paddy power is probably he issue here

    isnt their name racist anyway????? 😉

    I suspect that football being what it is that the number one concern of teams is keeping the £££ flowing from their own gambling sponsors

    tonyd
    Member

    Those rainbow laces look quite natty, where can I get some?

    Premier Icon binners
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    Nice to see another glorious chapter in footballers sporting items of clothing boldly espousing noble causes!

    yunki
    Member

    what a bunch of ****

    no backbone whatsoever

    pathetic

    the footballers aren’t any better either

    konabunny
    Member

    Yep seems the issue isn’t with Stonewall, laces or the campaign in general but Paddy Power’s involvement.

    It’s certainly the pretext.

    TBF, anything to do with commercial endorsements, sponsorship and uniforms is such big business and touchy that you’d have to approach it with a bit of insight if you wanted it to work.

    bigyinn
    Member

    Surely this sort of thing should be driven and led by FA in partnership with Stonewall directly?
    Paddy Power are a commercial entity, their sponsorship of the cause (which is a good thing) which is likely to cause conflicts with existing sponsors of clubs & players?

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