Waterproof gloves, they lied, advice please
Last winter I got a pair of Endura Strike "waterproof" winter gloves. They had 10/10 from some mag and good reviews, and I've been mostly happy with them. Average cold conditions they keep me warm, but still get cold fingers if it really drops. Problem is, if it really tips it down, they don't stay waterproof for long, and combine that with near freezing sleety snow (like last night in the brecons) and I'm starting to think about replacing them.
Firstly, is it worth/possible to re-waterproof them, or is that a waste of time? Or secondly, should I just bite the bullet and do what I should have done last year and buy some gore tex gloves? If gore tex in gloves is anything like as affective as in jackets and walking boots I don't think I'd be getting wet fingers.
Any thoughts, advice or experiences shared, greatly appreciated!Posted 7 years ago
Sealskin windproof storm gloves. I've worn them all the way through winter and they're fantastic. I will add that *no* glove is truley waterproof and coldproof IME but these are pretty good. On the colder days I will wear a thin wool inner glove as well which keeps my fingers toasty warm and I can always take the inners off and pocket them if my hands get too sweaty.Posted 7 years ago
If i'm on a cold winter ride and my hands are sweaty, I'd be very happy!
I suppose that's the question then. Could I find after buying gore tex groves, that I still get wet hands? I appreciate that no glove can keep you 100% warm, but surely you can get 100% waterproof (without resorting to washing up gloves!)Posted 7 years agojoemarshallMember
Problem with waterproof gloves is that once any water gets in, they are waterproof in the opposite direction too. They have a great big opening where your hand goes in to let water in..
I found warm, non waterproof gloves with a liner under them to be much better than my sealskins gloves, which always seemed to be ice bags if it rained.
JoePosted 7 years ago
Try just getting some inners first then. Mine only cost about 6 pounds and they make a big difference. They fit like…errm a glove too.Posted 7 years ago
Do the liners really help if they're soaked through and it's getting near freezing? You're probably right though that they're worth trying first. One problem is though that the gloves i've got at the moment seem to gave an built in liner that is separate from the outer, and means when they are wet through, they're a nightmare to get back on! I only see adding an extra liner as more of a problem.Posted 7 years agoD0NKSubscriber
I was (again) contemplating the uselessness of "waterproof" gloves on tuesday, think you are better off with comfy warm gloves that feel OK when wet. All the notwaterproof gloves I've owned felt horrible once soaked. Oh and take a spare pair for long rides.
Glove innners sound a very good idea too.Posted 7 years agomrmichaelwrightMember
I'e got altura waterproof gloves and they are rubbish, they keep you dry for a bit but the palms aren't waterproof so as soon as your bar tape (roady) is wet you just get cold hands. They are also virtually impossible to get back on once they are wet
someone needs to make a decent layered glove system with a liner, mid and breathable outerPosted 7 years agoBigJohnSubscriber
My winter gloves are Cannondale. Big foam-lined gloves with separate acrylic liners. Even yhough they are quite chunky, I still have plenty of feeling and can brake steer and shift perfectly well.
They're hardly waterproof at all, but that really doesn't matter.
Last Christmas we had a 3 day ride in the Lakes and it was raining and very cold. And at one point I dropped mine in a puddle.
Everybody had cold hands, bar me. And most people had bought waterproof gloves for the occasion. I just wrung mine out when they got too wet.
My neoprene windsurfing gloves are waterproof, but the sweat stays inside and gets cold.Posted 7 years agohoraMember
Ask for your money back.
Ive bought Gore windproof gloves. Windproof my ass.
I will add that *no* glove is waterproof
Then surely they should change their marketing to shower resistant or water resistant.
…but then they wouldnt sell as much would they?
Refund. I got a full refund on a Gore bikewear Goretex jacket a few years ago for this reason.Posted 7 years agoBurls72Member
Not really such a thing as waterproof gloves or jackets just a load of marketing hype. If your out in the rain and riding/running/walking your going to get wet either by water working its way through or by sweat not working its way out. Also if you put pressure on something 'waterproof' say gloves while gripping the bars and they are wet you will more than likely force water through the membrane as the water pressure will be greater than the waterproof pressure test for waterproofness. Most cases of claimed lack of waterproofness are due to sweat build up and a lack of customer understanding. The best solution for gloves on rainy days are liner gloves with wool being the better choice as they will keep your hands warmer when wet or taking multiple pairs and changing them. Your better off with 3 pairs of cheap gloves than one pair of expensive gloves and changing them sooner rather than later as skin cools 25 times quicker in the wind while wet. Once you are cold or worse cold and wet it is a lot harder to warm up.Posted 7 years agoDelSubscriber
make sure you keep your core warm. tempting to strip off lots of layers at the top of a hill, but although you need to be careful not to sweat too heavily of course, as soon as your body starts to cool down too much the blood will get pulled from your hands and feet very quickly. i've kept warmer hands this winter through keeping the rest of me warmer.Posted 7 years agoneninjaMember
My Seal Skinz have kept the sleet, snow and rain out so far but they do get very sweaty. I wouldn't buy another pair though as the lining is a total pain and always comes out when your hands are sweaty no matter how carefully I try to remove them. Trying to get them back on again is then almost impossible and results in much mickey taking from mates who are all ready to go again.Posted 7 years agoBoardinBobSubscriber
Had Sealskinz and they were bone dry in the most horrendous rain last year and nice and warm too.
The stitching came away at the fingers so I took them back to the shop. They had none in stock to replace them but offered me a pair of Aquashields which have been just as good.Posted 7 years agobrakeswithfaceSubscriber
The trouble with waterproof gloves (and socks) is that they have a rather large hole in one end. Stay out long enough and water will work it's way through it. I doubt many gloves actually leak through the main section, but it doesn't take much for water to work around the cuff and then soak through the lining.Posted 7 years agojonathanSubscriber
If you really want to keep you fingers warm and/or dry then you need a mit, but that makes riding a bit tricky. Split mitts are brilliant though. I've got an 10-year-old pair of Pearl Izumi Lobster gloves that are still brilliant – not super waterproof but always warm.
The latest versions look very nice and I suspect they're more water resistant than my old versions.
Posted 7 years agoradarMember
If you like the gloves stick with them. Look at Nikwax glove proofer (you may have to wash them first with pure soap flakes or techwash – sorry can't remember).
In the very worst of this winter I've worn cheap silk inner gloves from Decathlon… my ceam crackered Endura windproof gloves are still doing well with this regime (about 5 years old). (I quite often use them when out with Mountain Rescue in this combination)Posted 7 years agopiedi di formaggioSubscriber
I've got some Endura Strikes and been using them a couple of years. They have a waterproof membrain between the outer and inner parts of the gloves. I suppose if you are a bit rough with them, then where everything is stitched together could start to stretch a bit and open up the stiching holes.
Find mine fine for all but really heavy rain, but by then water is starting to work through everythingf I'm wearing anywayPosted 7 years agoMrSalmonMember
The trouble with waterproof gloves (and socks) is that they have a rather large hole in one end. Stay out long enough and water will work it's way through it. I doubt many gloves actually leak through the main section, but it doesn't take much for water to work around the cuff and then soak through the lining.
So whether you think the manufacturers of gloves (or jackets, or whatever) are lying when they say things are waterproof depends on whether you take waterproof to mean 'no water will penetrate the fabric' or 'no water will find its way inside'.
And it's not just rain- I've got some waterproof insulated hillwalking/climbing gloves, and if I keep them on when it's a bit too warm for them they get wet on the inside even if it's not raining.
Also if you put pressure on something 'waterproof' say gloves while gripping the bars and they are wet you will more than likely force water through the membrane as the water pressure will be greater than the waterproof pressure test for waterproofness.
I think that's pretty unlikely- that pressure is usually pretty high.Posted 7 years agoBurls72Member
MrSalmon – Minimum hydrostatic test results to be classed as waterproof in the uk is 1500mm which is a guide line as often different diameter tubes are used by different testing companies.
All garments sold in the UK that state they are waterproof have had to meet the British Standard of 3 PSI, which is approx 1,500mm of pressure. Falling rain generates about 2 PSI (approx 1,000mm), however an 84kg person can generate about 8 PSI (4,000mm) when sitting and 16 PSI (approx 8,000mm) when kneeling, so your bargain waterproof may not be as waterproof as you think!
Taken from the how waterproof is waterproof section half way down
Even if you take their examples of the pressures needed as being slightly out you still don't need a lot of pressure to penetrate a waterproof membrane. I don't know it all by a long way but I do know more than most as i've had training off numerous outdoor clothing manufactures mainly on waterproof clothing due to a job. A lot of what people think when these types of threads start is completely wrong, which isn't ment to knock anybody, I didn't know any better until it was explained to me.Posted 7 years ago
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