Watches (yes, ****** watches)

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  • MrSmith
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    True, but many of the bracelets and other components are certainly made in China. Final assembly in Switzerland- Swiss Made on the dial…

    High end brands? Rolex, Patek, Jaeger, IWC, Vacheron etc etc. you think they use Chinese parts 😆

    thatscold
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    Tag? Breitling? Many of the swatch group brands? – the watches that people actually buy..?

    There are very few vertically integrated watch manufacturers.

    The brands you mention are out of reach of most people…..

    Simply put, if buying a watch;
    Rugged? G-Shock
    Everyday use? Seiko
    Something special? Grand Seiko or something inherited/vintage
    Want to tell everyone about it? Something MASSIVE with a shiny brand name.

    tron
    Member

    High end brands? Rolex, Patek, Jaeger, IWC, Vacheron etc etc. you think they use Chinese parts

    Some of them will. Most of them will have shareholders to satisfy, and there will be things they want to keep in house to avoid making counterfeiting ridiculously easy, but bits and pieces that the average customer never sees?

    I have a Seiko Arnie which has been full restored, very rare now but you may find one in your budget and you wont loose a penny on it.
    Heaven forbid if Arnie pops his clogs, prices will go mental.

    MrSmith
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    The brands you mention are out of reach of most people…..

    Yes they are ‘High end brands’…… 🙄

    roblane65
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    look at citizen eco drive some very nice watches wont break the bank and never need winding or battries 😕

    BillMC
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    Give up work and you won’t need a watch.

    MrSmith
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    How do you know when the pub is open? 😯

    lapdog
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    Schofield watch or Gibson ES 345 1964 reissue would be my recommendations.

    MrSmith
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    Does Giles give you a discount then? Are you going to share that with the O.P? Only I think you are stretching the budget there with a Scofield.

    Solo
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    High end brands? Rolex, Patek, Jaeger, IWC, Vacheron etc etc. you think they use Chinese parts 

    That was a point I was making. That on the basis of the Far Eastern replica, I saw, items such as the case, button tops, glass, bracelets “appear” to be of the same quality and finish. Now this was a replica, but in my opinion, seeing that watch demonstrated to me the genuinely feasible scenario of the premium/Swiss manufacturers having such items made for them in China.

    This possibility, made me rethink the prices I see for some of the watches I’d like to own.

    MrSmith
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    the high end manufactures will use outsourced parts but most of these come from the Joux valley where independent producers specialise in one product like hands or balance springs, there is simply no need to go outside of the area for parts. Just because there are fakes from China doesn’t mean that manufactures will source their parts there (as I said before it would kill there brand overnight)
    If the possibility worries you don’t buy an expensive Swiss watch, just start saving for a Gran Seiko.

    matt23
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    THANKS ALOT ALL……

    ….read this post, spent part of my bonus on an Elliot Brown watch – have been looking for a nice watch for some time now (work/dress) – G-Shock only works on the bike and the pub!

    Need to remember to buy flowers for the missus on the way home now.

    Solo
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    Mr Smith. Thanks for the pithy response, it would seem you know a good deal about the industry. However, I was referring specifically to external parts, comparatively simple to produce.
    I wasn’t suggesting that the movements (parts of a watch you would not usually see) might be made in China. In fact, I’d agree with you, when I’d assume the internals are very much kept, developed and produced in house.
    Cheers.
    🙂

    Solo
    Member

    Ok, I’ll ask.

    G-Shock, I just don’t get it, nor, do I believe I’ve ever seen an attractive example. So, to the G-Shock lovers out there. Please help.

    Premier Icon Yak
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    G-Shocks? I think they are pretty useless. I’ve had one before and the thing was so bulky it kept catching on things and then ripping the pins out so the thing fell off.

    I reckon the best watch for sports, riding, general stuff is the F-91. It’s thin so it doesn’t catch on anything and cheap so you don’t care too much if the inevitable happens and you smash it up.

    hilldodger
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    G-Shock, I just don’t get it…..

    Phew, thought I was the only one – guess it’s an aspirational purchase, all rufty tufty and macho, probably 😉

    Solo
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    Phew, thought I was the only one
    Likewise
    🙂

    Premier Icon cynic-al
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    Ooh that Arnie Seiko is cool. I have an Arnie Casio (inherited).

    Sadly both my inherited automatics (dad’s Certina and uncle’s Seiko) aren’t repairable 🙁

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    Yak – Member

    G-Shocks? I think they are pretty useless. I’ve had one before and the thing was so bulky it kept catching on things and then ripping the pins out so the thing fell off.

    I’ve just got a g shock in the post, tbh I only got it as they seem to have stopped selling the DW290 in the UK. The g shock was one of the cheaper ones, as I will only use it occasionaly when doing proper work in Ireland but it is a bit bulky and action man ish, tbh if I’d have seen this thread i would’ve got a seiko sumo and stuff the extra expense

    matt23
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    I like them – can’t be hurting anyone. must admit I don’t have the big chunky colourful models that you might be thinking about – they do some nice metal bracelet ones these days (my opinion of course!)

    At least I know if I go out on the bike with some of the STW massive – to keep you happy I will leave the watch in the car 🙂

    Fudd
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    cynic-al – Member
    Ooh that Arnie Seiko is cool. I have an Arnie Casio (inherited).

    Sadly both my inherited automatics (dad’s Certina and uncle’s Seiko) aren’t repairable

    Hey Al, why are they not repairable? I’ve brought many watches back from the dead and parts for Seiko and Certina shouldn’t be too hard to find. The only ones that have defeated me are Omega F300 electronic and a Sicura with a low grade pin lever movement from the 60’s, both due to unobtanium parts.

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    There’s a price/spec comparison here between a CH Ward watch (£600) and very similar Tudor (£2,000). It’s an advert from CHW so maybe not the whole story…
    Battle for the Deep

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    To the OP, this fits the bill and can be found within budget:


    Victorinox Alliance Mechanical

    toby1
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    THANKS ALOT ALL……

    Yeah, but you’ll look at your wrist and smile every time you see your lovely new watch there, you won’t regret it.

    MrSmith
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    It’s an advert from CHW so maybe not the whole story…

    well Tudor have an long history and have now moved to an in-house calibre, also there are several grades of the same movement and Tudor will also modify the base movement so CW are a bit economical with the truth.
    i know which i would rather have on my wrist (have tried all the Tudor’s) but the one i really want is unique:

    and well out of my price range (will go for big money at auction)

    there is no shame in using a Valjoux/ETA movement there a long history of watches with other movements in from all the big names such as a Zenith in the Rolex Daytona.

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