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  • nicko74
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    IvanDobski

    Posted 4 days ago

    😀 This is genuine lol!

    Dumb question here, but my first time asking it… When thinking of Tudor, Oris and others – so I guess around the £1-4k mark – where do you guys tend to sell, or where do you recommend selling?
    Is Watchbox any good (never even visited the site, dunno what it is)? Anyone use Chrono24 or ebay? Anywhere else?

    neilnevill
    Free Member

    Sorry gaidong,  it’s a major exercise to reach my box so I can’t check,  but I don’t recall anything extra secret.  Most boxes either have a flap under the lid or the shaped card ‘nest ‘ for the watch will lift out and cards go under there.

    If you really can’t find it though I’ll make the effort to get the box out.

    neilnevill
    Free Member

    Delays and even escrow type sites need to make a living so the buy price is well below the sell.

    Sell to a dealer,  easy but worst price

    Sell via escrow eg chrono24, next easiest and get a bit more

    Sell privately/ via eBay most risky but may get best price…. but still way down on the price on the preowned one in a goldsmiths window.

    Then you’ve got watch communities like tz-uk which take a lot of risk out but you should be pricing at about ebay sales price. Maybe even minus the fees.

    gaidong
    Free Member

    No, I think the Watchbox offer was a bit beyond the Pale. I recognise they have a business to run but any deal needs to have both parties happy, right?! They moved a bit on the Blancpain price to be fair but I’m not prepared to be eviscerated on my side. Also, I just discovered, that Chrono24 now insists on having my tax number (numéro fiscal) when we place an advert. I read the French tax rules but it wasn’t clear if I have to pay tax on the full proceeds or just the profit (if any). I withdrew the Rolex but went ahead with the VC, as it’s very unlikely to make a profit and there is a threshold of €5k anyway. As for a firesale, we are selling the kids’ beds, desks and wardrobes; all from Flexa and costing a pretty penny but secondhand prices make me want to use them for firewood!

    neilnevill
    Free Member

    Remind me gaidong,  which oris is it?

    neilnevill
    Free Member

    @blazin-saddles, that po is one of the 2500 movement first generation.  A lot of people prefer them as they are thinner (more wearable) than the later 8500 movement watches as they don’t have a display case back.   It should sell readily enough.  The exact age will be of interest to a clued up buyer,  and most buyers of a2500 will be.  That’s because the early ones had a problem and stopped.  They got corrected with a new movement.  The 2500 is basically an eta2824 modified to have a coaxial escapement but the coaxial escapement doesn’t like running at a high beat…. or even at the fairly standard 4hz/8bps.  The cure was to slow it down to 3.5/7. I can’t recall the details of a,b,c and d variants but the earlier ones aren’t wanted as they don’t work reliablly.

    tthew
    Full Member

    where do you guys tend to sell, or where do you recommend selling?

    I sold my Tag Heuer to a pawn brokers called Ramsdens for what I considered a decent price. They can afford to do it because they are trying to sell it for a frankly crackers price, its been on their website for months as a consequence.

    https://www.ramsdensjewellery.co.uk/product/tag-heuer-carrera-twin-time-pre-owned-watch-ref-war2010-72923

    Blazin-saddles
    Free Member

    @neil.  Good info thanks.  It’s a 2009.  He has already had a (lowball) offer from the dealer he’s looking to buy his next one from, but hoping to close the gap a bit.

    neilnevill
    Free Member

    I’d consider £3k very toppy.  Not impossible but it needs to be prefect,  recently serviced by a decent watchmaker and the right variant of movement (I can’t remember when the po first appeared but it got the 8500 by 2011 I think so 2009 should be fine. )

    gaidong
    Free Member

    @Neil, it’s a Propilot Day-date I bought this January. I only offered it to make up the trade bundle.

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    neilnevill
    Free Member

    I thought it was.  Had it been an aquis I may have made you an offer….. thankfully its not so I can continue the slow saving to pay the fund off for the zenith!   That’s going to take a while.

    ctk
    Full Member
    gaidong
    Free Member

    Yeah, I’m happy to keep the Oris. It could serve for places I wouldn’t dare wear a really pricey piece. And I just like it, it is probably the sort of watch someone with my income should be satisfied with. Whoops!

    Blazin-saddles
    Free Member

    <span style=”caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: Roboto, ‘Helvetica Neue’, Arial, ‘Noto Sans’, sans-serif, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, ‘Segoe UI’, ‘Apple Color Emoji’, ‘Segoe UI Emoji’, ‘Segoe UI Symbol’, ‘Noto Color Emoji’; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%; background-color: #eeeeee;”>I’d consider £3k very toppy.  Not impossible but it needs to be prefect,
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    I agree and I think the prices he’s been seeing and based it on are from over enthusiastic owners trying to sell.

    speaking of which, I fancy getting into the White SMP club at some point and I’m not that familiar with Omega nuances.  Is there any difference in movement or whatever from a 20/21/22 model to the very handsome new one Kryton (and others) are now sporting?  I’m only asking as WatchFinder have a “sale” on and there’s three with the same model number at different price points that don’t tally with age. The ‘21 plate for £3,630 has caught my eye.

    derek_starship
    Free Member

    Let’s have a real VFM post:

    My new Baltany 39mm retro military auto.

    100m WR, sapphire AR glass, screw-down crown and Seiko auto movement.

    I changed the OEM strap to a Hirsch Kent as I like them. And it came on tan which I hate.

    Watch was just £150 with a voucher code.

    Now that is VFM.

    I can’t imagine it would heat up gaidong’s gentleman’s area.

    Harry_the_Spider
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    jamesco
    Full Member

    Just scrolling by……..gaidong, if you have a feel for a more realistic valuation of your Oris pm me with a few pictures of the rear and strap clasp,is it automatic 752 caliber? regards.

    gaidong
    Free Member

    @Derek, I am caressing my computer screen right now….

    Kryton57
    Full Member

    @blazin_saddles that watch has the same reference as my my watch, as checked via my Omega account.  Its second hand of course.

    Blazin-saddles
    Free Member

    Thanks Kryton.  Yes, used examples.  I’ve actually seen a slightly cheaper one since asking the question as well, but it’s on a bracelet but I fancy the rubber strap instead.  Wasn’t planning on buying anything though so trying to ignore for now.  I have just sold a bike however…

    Nobby
    Full Member

    IMG_3586Special occasion so the Planet Ocean gets a run out.  Really should wear it more often.

    Kryton57
    Full Member

    Nice.  Free Bus Pass @Nobby?

    Kato
    Full Member

    The Baltany is lovely!

    neilnevill
    Free Member

    I love the PO nobby.  I would,  that exact watch was my first luxury watch and still my favourite.

    Blazin,  price difference will be condition.  Myself,  as I wear my watches, hairline and swirls don’t bother me at all.   If the cheapest one on bracelet looks ok get it,  the bracelet is worth considerably more than even the oem rubber so just sell it…. although I’d say there are plenty of high quality rubber straps to fit that are far less than the oem.  I’ll also say again….£20 ish for a snide omega deployant from etsy and a similar amount for a black sailcloth with white stitching looks very good on the watch.

    Blazin-saddles
    Free Member

    Thanks a fair point Neil, food for thought.

    gaidong
    Free Member

    @jamesco, sorry, I missed your message. At the moment my Oris isn’t for sale. I have to shift the Milgauss and the VC Patrimony to make up the bulk of the funds I need for the Blancpain. Plus the Pelagos, once I have seen my AD about the missing card! If I can possibly do so, I’ll keep the Oris. If you look online you can find them new for about €1500, well worth it IMO.

    Talking of online selling… I’m not sure how Chrono24 is looking in the UK but in France we now have to give Chrono24 our tax number (numéro fiscal), so we automatically get billed for 6.5% by the state, in addition to the 6.5% seller’s fee! And it’s not even on the profit, the whole price gets taxed, grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

    gaidong
    Free Member

    But as you asked, and I have the photos…

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    fatmax
    Full Member

    My friend Tom of Clemence Watches (Edinburgh based microbrand) is just about to release his second model this month – The Munro.
    https://www.clemencewatches.com/

    Nobby
    Full Member

    Not quite @kryton57 !

    I share the same birthday as my sister in law & it was her day 😁

    Kato
    Full Member

    The yellow one is cool!  Will keep an eye out

    jamesco
    Full Member

    No worries @gaidong, I saw the picture that you originally put up and I was smitten-looking for a good day/work watch. Thanks for the other photos they give me a good idea of the strap and fixing, do you think it would extend enough to be secure on my 8″ (sorry 20cm) wrist? Off to search the net now, thanks.

    Harry_the_Spider
    Full Member

    Liking the look of this:

    Beltany Dive

    Scapegoat
    Full Member

     Is there any difference in movement or whatever from a 20/21/22 model to the very handsome new one Kryton (and others) are now sporting? 

    The SMP 300m Omega was updated in 2018 with the 8800 movement- the “Co-Axial Master Chronometer”  Since then they all have the laser-cut wave dial. Being Omega they do a range of different colourways, including the much-vaunted and admired white dial  version.  Search carefully through the various online and marketplace style sellers you’ll find loads for sale. I paid 3800 for a near-mint October ’22 one in blue through eBay’s authentication process.  You should be able to find one on a rubber strap for between 3000 and 3500 depending on age.  They need servicing between 5 and 8 years from new, and that’ll be around the £450-500 mark via Omega ADs so factor that in if you’re looking at buying one of the earlier ones.

    Edit: There are plenty of clowns who have seen the price rise from last year to this and think they’re going to get their money back, so are advertising theirs at 4.5K . I walked into a jeweller in August and enquired about the price of a brand new one (RRP £5500 on bracelet) and without even prompting was told they’d discount it to £4750.

    Kryton57
    Full Member

    and without even prompting was told they’d discount it to £4750.

    +1 mine mine was £4400, but I was told this was very much the floor, hence they threw in an almost free Citizen Promaster for my son to close the deal.

    neilnevill
    Free Member

    I hunted for a deal new via a grey dealer and paid £3600 on the bracelet,  that was a20% discount.

    tthew
    Full Member

    Liking the Clement Ridgeline face, that’s pretty unique. I’m sure there will be plenty that disagree, but it’s a bold move. Nice one.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CxbC9VPNyMc/

    Meh, you’ll just have to have a link, can’t work out how to link to photo’s as a full member, only upload from my own PC.

    gaidong
    Free Member

    @jamesco, an 8″ wrist would be perfect for this watch. Mine is 7.25″ and it’s ok but on the limit. It would be ideally balances for yours.

    gaidong
    Free Member

    Even if the OEM strap wasn’t long enough (mine has over an inch spare), the clasp mechanism, which I love, can be put on any 22/20 mm (taper) replacement of similar thickness (1.5mm?). I have worn my hiking, snorkelling the lot, and I think it looks great.

    jamesco
    Full Member

    Thanks for your help, as I say I was smitten by your first picture and the clasp just cemented the whole thing , a few deals about as you say and also an ‘unworn’ one on Chrono24 although a couple of years old . Dunno if anything has changed much in the last couple of years. Also found a lovely bronze ‘date pointer’ 80th anniversary Oris in a shop online …. must stop NOW!

    nicko74
    Full Member

    gaidong
    Free Member
    Even if the OEM strap wasn’t long enough (mine has over an inch spare), the clasp mechanism, which I love, can be put on any 22/20 mm (taper) replacement of similar thickness (1.5mm?). I have worn my hiking, snorkelling the lot, and I think it looks great.

    The Oris deployant is a wonderful thing; I like their strap too, and like you I’ve used my Oris all round day to day. I’ve found with my puny (170mm or so) wrist that it wears smaller than you’d think from its size, too.

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