Old car still had 1/4 tank of fuel though and new one was bone dry 🙁 First world problems I know, but hate throwing cash away…

Same.

Dealer offered to give us a full tank in exchange for a five star feedback review.

VW ID3 Pro Performance ordered in September 2021, estimated for April 2022 delivery at that time. Latest estimate is late September this year, so over a year, and I think it’ll be a miracle if that target gets hit.

The only specific delay reason I’m aware of is ‘wiring looms from Ukraine’, the rest of the delay is just down to ‘things’.

Currently 400k + cars for sale on autotrader, why not buy one of them ? I don’t get why anyone would wait more than a day or two but then again I like cars but not enough to wait for one.

Just been through a similar though process. Wife’s clutch died, age and value of the car makes it not woth replacing so becomes scrap. Looked at lease deals on new cars but the majority are “factory order” status. Nothing which was classed as in-stock was what we wanted or wanted to pay.
So went on Cinch, ordered used a car this morning, it’s being delivered on Sunday. Job done. Hopedfully when we’re looking again in 2-3yrs time things will have calmed down a bit. Either that or they’ll be much worse.

I would think that it’s a contract change, which you can accept or reject.

Yeah that’s what I was thinking – just the same as when there is a price increase on things like phone contracts, Sky etc you can exit the contract within 28 days of receiving the notification IIRC.

Wife’s clutch died, age and value of the car makes it not woth replacing so becomes scrap

It’s always worth it if you want a working car, unless there are lots of severe things wrong with it e.g. rust. Don’t be fooled by the market value.

becomes scrap

It’s always worth it if you want a working car, unless there are lots of severe things wrong with it e.g. rust. Don’t be fooled by the market value.

The clutch was the big one but there were many more little things that needed doing that would soon add up to a lot. On top of that the synchro on the gear box was on its way out and we were advised by a specialist that they don’t do replacement parts because financial reasons, so to just live with it as long as we could. The car was 16yrs old and it gave my wife an excuse to get rid and get something shiny and newer.

I’m coming up to 62, still waiting for a new car. Puts some of your problems into perspective!
However, do I want or need a new car? And, do you…

I put my deposit down on a new VW group car last month and I’m expecting a Q4 2023 delivery… a very 2022 first world problem

On the positive side our 14yr old Honda Accord petrol estate passed its MOT first time again….

Currently Kia is one of the least affected car manufacturers in terms of supply issues, hence they’re now the number 2 car manufacturer in the UK by volume.

However, they still have problems eg they’ve stopped taking orders for the Sorento as they can’t get parts.

As for not being able to give accurate lead times, the problem now with supply chains is that no one can give accurate lead times for parts, so you plan to what your suppliers have told you and then they come back and say 8 wk slip on this batch of chips the day it was supposed to arrive.

It’s pretty much impossible to accurately forecast anything with chips in them at the moment as the whole supply chain is broken.

Kia have just moved our delivery date forward by 4 weeks from end to start of August. We phoned up twice to check it was actually true

Had a call from my friendly local Volvo dealer recently, as my PCP is ending in the autumn. He wanted to know what I was thinking of doing. I said I was intending to pay the balloon and keep the car. He said that was probably a good call, but if I changed my mind and wanted another car, we’d be looking at 18 months for delivery.

I’ve just been offered a 1 year delivery date, and it’s clear that this is just an estimate not a promise. Doesn’t bother me personally, I’m not in a rush and it gives me time to back out if I change my mind! Relatively small deposit so <shrug>.

What Kryton57 said.
Cancel if you’re bored. But expect to pay more when you reorder before the ‘over-orders’ spill into next year when supplies might have caught up. ‘Over-orders’ because I expect there’ll be many people who ordered, waited, and realise that with high living expenses that new car doesn’t seem as affordable in 2023 as they’d expected.

And while cars are very much JIT (when supplies of parts and shipping allow) maybe some of this too? https://www.wired.com/story/the-world-has-too-much-stuff/

It’s not just cars.

I spoke to a Honda dealer last week about a new bike. They’ve no idea when there will be stock in the UK but suggest it could be November at the soonest.

A mate ordered a Skoda as his new work car last November.

Date has been pushed back again to this November.

I ordered a Octavia VRS (company Car through Arval leasing) in December 21, it has been pushed back from July 22 to September 22 and is now Dec 22. I will believe I’m getting it when it actually arrives.

My Old Dear ordered a Nissan Leaf August ‘21, now that it’s been pushed back to November ’22 (and they didn’t sound confident) she’s finally given up

Still no idea when mine will be delivered, apparently the dealership have started getting deliveries again,but not many. I reckon it’ll be late September / October at the earliest.

Same issue with trucks and vans. The company my son works for can’t renew their fleet leases (usually changed every 3-4 years) so they are continuing with existing vans, and HGV’s. There is no supply of new vehicles to keep up. My son’s van recently shat it’s ad-blue system and has been in repair for over a month (caddy). He was then given another spot hire 19 plate caddy that then destroyed the cam pully. Currently in a rough running 19 plate Transporter (what a bag of spanners it is).

Work colleague had a new R-Line Tiguan on order since June last year. Was due last month but VW actually called him to say they couldn’t build it. It had now become a ’23 model with a different spec. Delivery would have then been next Spring. It was cancelled and he bought a used one off Cazoo.

Quick update, no update. Looks like I’m not alone either, there’s a lot of other Kia wannabe owners out there who ordered at the same time. I’ve now created a Google spreadsheet which seems to be going a bit viral on various Kia forums and Facebook groups. We’ve all added details of what we’ve ordered, when we ordered and when cars are being delivered / promised. I’m guessing we’ve now got a better idea of real deliveries than the dealers.

First world problems I know, but hate throwing cash away…

why did you buy a new car then?

Thought I’d update, ordered 7th March, will pick it up 22nd of December, nine and a half months. People who ordered late March and early April are looking at March next year, 12 months. Car arrived at the dealer yesterday, apparently it takes a week to peel the plastic off. Their stock notification seems to be the transporter turning up.

Anyway nice Christmas present although should have had it for my birthday back in May.

This is Kia, and customer service has been non existent, other manufacturers are apparently worse.

If the dealer had been honest in the first place we would have looked at other brands or bittenthe bullet and bought second hand

🤔

Edit: it came through! Great.

With the benefit of hindsight i think we would have struggled to get anything new and the second hand market is nuts. Regostered Kia Sportages are apparently going for £5k over list price on the second hand market.

The premium models are worst affected due to the chip shortages.

My lease (through Tusker) Q4 Etron, ordered in July is now tracking for early June 23 delivery. On the upside, I still have a year to go on my current PCP and the car has gone from zero equity to now around £5k in my favour if I sell it back to dealer.

Sporty Golfs are looking like 18-20 months from order.

Edit: ordered Nov 21.

We ordered a Kodiac a couple of weeks ago, late Feb delivery is what we have been quoted. This thread is preparing me for getting it late summer if we’re lucky…

To give some people hope, I ordered a new VW lease in mid Jul 22 and it was delivered 30 Nov 22. It was through Vertu Leeds (who have been good to deal with).

A4 Avant ordered in June. Apparently in the UK and expecting it at the dealer in the middle of next week.

Thing that’s slowed it down is the adaptive cruise control; mate has ordered an identical spec apart from that and colour and he’s got his this week, having ordered in Aug.

I ordered my Octavia VRS tdi estate (company lease car) at the beginning of Dec 21. I have just ben told its built and waiting to be shipped so expected mid-late Jan 23.

My colleague ordered a Superb hybrid estate in Nov 21, he has been advised that there is no build date but to expect Sept 23 delivery!

“To give some people hope, I ordered a new VW lease in mid Jul 22 and it was delivered 30 Nov 22. It was through Vertu Leeds (who have been good to deal with).” – I have used them for my company cars servicing for the last 15 years and can advise that the service has been superb.

I’m surprised how many people in this thread are buying new cars

However when the price of a 2nd hand car, with 5k + miles and 1 yr + old is only about £1k less than new I can see why you would wait

Really surprised for A4 delivery times mentioned above. Mrs ordered new company car in Jan 22, original delivery estimate was early Aug 22 and it might actually be delivered before New Year.
Mercedes delivery estimates were over 13 months already back then.