Bernie may have a better chance than Corbyn did here. There doesn’t seem to be a Brexit type massive issue over there at the moment, Trump somehow failing to start WW3 despite trying. Americans are, as a rule of thumb, better at change than us and the Democrats won the popular vote by some margin – was it a technicality or a brilliant bit strategy than won it for Trump? who knows, but it will be a tough trick to pull off twice.

Challenges, apart from the Obvious, his age – Trump is largely resting easy at the moment, playing Golf, Tweeting shit, getting a cheap spray tan. Bernie and all the other hopefuls are campaigning at full speed. Once whoever gets wins get nominated the big race starts straight away, it’s months of long days and lots of travelling. They’ll be tired before they start. The Pace started to show on Clinton last time, she fell ill, the US being the US they had to pretend she wasn’t, it looked crap, credibility out of the window.

They’ve lost the ‘fear factor’ Trump will have served a full term by then, the Democrats have thrown the kitchen sink at him, but he’s largely unscathed. Leading up to the last election he was the pantomime baddie, if he got in it would have been WW3, he would have enslaved half the population, and bankrupted them – but none of that happened.

True, the incumbent always has an advantage. It’s been quite rare for a president not to get a second term…

if he got in it would have been WW3, he would have enslaved half the population, and bankrupted them – but none of that happened.

I’d go one step further and say that Trump should get a Nobel Peace Prize for sacking John Bolton. 😀

Buttigieg has suspended his campaign! I’m guessing to make way for Joe Biden. I wonder if Bloomberg will do the same?

Warren needs to drop-out to and support Sanders, otherwise the DNC/super-delegates are going to shaft him

The Democrats are going to do a Corbyn and Trump is going to get a second term.

Idiots.

Funny how the Guardian expressed a visceral hatred for Corbyn and yet is forever extolling the virtues of Bernie.

Seems a lot of folk saying that Sanders would have no chance against Trump on here. Inside my leftie social media bubble I’m seeing a lot of ‘evidence’ that he would stand a good chance (random example here: https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1231611469667721216?s=20)

I’m genuinely interested to know why people think that it would be a Trump shoo-in against him other than ‘he’s left wing and America doesn’t like left wingers’.

Also please no ‘Bernie is USA Corbyn’. Other than both being a bit leftie, they’re vastly different characters working in vastly different systems.

I feel Sanders and Biden are just too old,they have missed their chance.

Andrew Neill saying on Twitter that Trump is now the youngest male candidate left in the US Primaries. Eep.

The Democrats are going to do a Corbyn and Trump is going to get a second term.

Idiots.

Very much this.

Also please no ‘Bernie is USA Corbyn’. Other than both being a bit leftie, they’re vastly different characters working in vastly different systems.

When asked if they’ve learnt anything from the electoral arse-kicking Corbyn just received, Democrats come out with statements exactly like that.

Unfortunately, while they would love that to be the case, it isn’t. Far from it. Whatever the delusional, lefty liberals think, the majority of the UK and the US voters would take one look at them, then tell you that Corbyn and Sanders are indistinguishable from each other, and are just a pair of old commies who would be a threat to national security, and they’d never, ever vote for them.

Sanders selection as candidate would be met with the same unbridled jubilation in Trumps campaign team as Corbyns election was greeted in Tory Central Office. Because they’d know full well that the election has just been gift-wrapped for them the same as Joris Bohnsons was gift-wrapped for him by Magic Grandad over here.

Its going to be a huge Trump landslide. The biggliest majority ever.

Inside my leftie social media bubble I’m seeing a lot of ‘evidence’ that he would stand a good chance 

The exact same mistake the ‘lefties’ made here.

‘he’s left wing and America doesn’t like left wingers’

You may want other reasons but that is by far the biggest, most compelling and likely.

The retreat from responsibility and reality by ‘the left’ in the UK and US is dismal.

The retreat from responsibility and reality by ‘the left’ in the UK and US is dismal.

‘The left’ concluded after the financial crisis that the electorate would now reject neo-liberal capitalist economics and embrace a more socialist future

The very opposite has happened and instead the electorates have opted for populist nationalism and economic isolationism and protectionism as an answer instead.

The left still refuse to believe this can be the case, so has decided to bury its collective head in the sand, stick its fingers in its ears shouting LA-LA-LAAAAA-WE’RE NOT LISTENING, ignore the huge mountain of evidence that voters simply aren’t interested in socialism (as they just don’t believe in it or its evangelists) and will just never ever vote for it.

Bernie Sanders selection would just confirm this further and the democrats will get their Corbyn moment, and like Boris, Trump will get his whacking great majority.

Depressing

The left still refuse to believe this can be the case, so has decided to bury its collective head in the sand, stick its fingers in its ears shouting LA-LA-LAAAAA-WE’RE NOT LISTENING, ignore the huge mountain of evidence that voters simply aren’t interested in socialism (as they just don’t believe in it or its evangelists) and will just never ever vote for it.

It brings to mind the USSR in the 1970s and early 80s. Even as their economy was falling apart around them, some of the ridiculous old dinosaurs (Breznev, Andropov, Chernenko) were still trying to convince others (and most likely themselves) that ‘just a few more years and the capitalists will start their inevitable war amongst themselves’.

Meanwhile ‘the West’ just kept a watching brief, got on with their own stuff and said ‘told you so’ when Gorby had to start dismantling their system.

Sure, the very end 89-91 happened quicker than a lot of people expected, but the writing was on the wall (literally in Berlin) for a decade or more.

The dems are screwed whoever they choose t o be honest,

Sanders = “He’s a commie” smear campagin

Anyone else = “Hillary #2” smear campaign

Which is why Trump doesn’t care.

I wondered why this thread mattered and now it makes sense

“Public Enemy have fired founder member Flavor Flav following a dispute over the group performing at a Bernie Sanders rally, bringing to an end one of the most colourful partnerships in rap history.”

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/mar/02/public-enemy-fire-flavor-flav-clash-bernie-sanders

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