Tom I’m not certain the difference is down to definition, it’s hard to pin down what burglary is in America from Google , it may well vary from State to state . Crime stats between nations are always hard to cross compare because of different definitions and ways of recording offences. See how the neo Nazis twist sweeden in to being the rape capital of the world.

That figure of 10.54 includes suicides

So it should as every study shows easy access to guns increases the suicide rate.

So it should as every study shows easy access to guns increases the suicide rate.

Yes we’ve been through this already. Gun homicide is totally different to gun suicide. On is a reflection of how violent a country is the other how unhappy it is.

Guns aren’t a problem in any country just as Switzerland shows (btw what is the suicide rate in Switzerland?) Gun homicides are the problem but even then that’s not a really a factor of gun ownership (as again Switzerland shows) but rather of wealth inequality. This is demonstrated by the Gini Coeffecient.

As for Argentina not being a super power, so what, does that make their gun homicide problem less of a problem?

geetee1972 – Member

Guns aren’t a problem in any country just as Switzerland shows

What?
More suicides are committed in Switzerland using guns per capita than anywhere else in Europe.

Independent article

There are about 32,000 deaths from guns a year in the United States, of which some 60 per cent are suicides, three per cent are accidents and the rest are homicides.

Crankboy

Guess what happens if you rely on Wikipedia for your legal definitions rather than the definition in the FBI’s uniform crime report statistics:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/burglary.pdf

More suicides are committed in Switzerland using guns per capita than anywhere else in Europe.

But how does Switzerland’s actual overall suicide rate look compared with its neighbours?

every study shows easy access to guns increases the suicide rate.

that isn’t what the studies you posted before showed, they showed that there was an association between the two, correlation not causation.

But how does Switzerland’s actual overall suicide rate look compared with its neighbours?

It’s higher.

its higher

Fake Noos!

Most recent OECD stats:

Rates in Austria and France are higher (Germany and Italy lower) Switzerland is pretty close to the OECD average.

You’ll also note that despite the aforementioned gun suicide rates in the US, their suicide rate is still below France (one could postulate that given the healthcare etc. situation, you would expect the US suicide to top most of the countries with free healthcare systems anyway)

Ninfan so still narrower than section 9 and was the FBI’s data the set used in the comparison ? Do Americans report and record thefts from sheds as burglary or theft or not at all?

I live in the US and many of the people I work with are convinced that if they do not keep guns in their houses then countries like North Korea or Iran will sail across and invade and they will be defenceless. Mind you they are all pretty terrified of everyone else in the country, other countries as well as their own government who they also believe will at the drop of a hat come into their house and imprison them…
Many of these people are very educated but years of indoctrination has made them a bit odd…

Record number of people shot & killed by Police in America last year 1000

And then remember the Vegas shooter with the mod to turn his rifle into a machine gun, the makers of that bump stock are suing the hotel he fired from !

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics/bump-stocks-interest/index.html

ninfan – Member

Fake Noos!

I’m working from raw data from 2014.
It is substantially higher.
You should check your facts more carefully.

“You should check your facts more carefully”
And definitions.
https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=321