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  • Unfashionable 29er frame recommendations
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    I’m after a 29er frame to replace my heavy but nice handling Surly KM Ops but having a hard time finding candidates. Does anyone have any recommendations? Must take a 120 fork and have a 71-70ish degree head angle and takes 9/135mm rear hub. Don’t really care what material as long as it’s not too heavy. I’d like to keep the price down to under 700 quid. Is this a tall order? Can’t find anything online. Please help.

    Premier Icon ton
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    cube ltd 29

    Premier Icon oldnpastit
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    Singular Swift will take 120mm forks, according to Sam, though it might be a bit floppy.

    You could perhaps reduce the travel if worried about it.

    I am running 100mm and it’s excellent. Well within your budget.

    Premier Icon garlic
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    Thanks Ton but the Cube isn’t available as a frame, at least not in my size (16″-17″) anyway.

    Premier Icon garlic
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    Yeah the Swift is really nice but I’m not taken with the eccentric BB as I’m not likely to ever run it SS. Only went for the KM when Surly introduced interchangeable dropouts. I bought it for the geometry and fit, not the SS capabilities.

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    Inbred 29er? About as unfashionable as a 29er can get, not light but not too heavy, happily runs a 120mm fork. Head angle of 71-72 deg. Well under budget

    At the other end of spectrum, a Niner Air 9? Just under budget.

    Premier Icon ton
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    garlic…have a look on here. 29 and 27.5 availablr.

    http://www.bike-discount.de/en/search/l-24/o-relevance/p-3?q=cube%20frames

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    Swift is a really nice bike. Ebb for 1x or 2x is not an issue in my experience. In the case of my 1×9 setup I can choose my effective day angle and BB height by pivoting the ebb. It has never made a sound or slipped in 6 years of riding.

    Failing that a stanton sherpa would be a slightly more trail bike alternative and be more suited to 120mm forks.

    70/71 degree sounds rather steep to be using with 120mm forks too unless you mean sagged (so ~68-69 static).

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    @Shacketon- sorry error on my part. Forgot my fork is actually a 100 not a 120. Haven’t ridden it this season- new CX bike is my current toy.

    The Surly has a 72 head angle (was sold with a rigid fork so I’d imagine that’s what the head angle measurement is taken with – not sure of the supplied fork’s axle 2 crown length). Reckon it’s around 70.5ish with the 100 travel fork.

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    Cotic Solaris?

    Premier Icon core
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    Those el mar’s heavy?

    Premier Icon ratherbeintobago
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    You can thank me later .

    http://www.charliethebikemonger.com/salsa-el-mariachi-2016-frame-10261-p.asp

    Will it take a 120mm fork though?

    Those el mar’s heavy?

    Dunno. Certainly heavier than the alloy 26er it replaced but it’s a steel 29er so that’s not the biggest shock ever.

    Edit: is a Trans Am 29 any lighter than the KM, and will it take a QR back wheel?

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    what about a karate monkey – they’re ace 😉

    Premier Icon CheesybeanZ
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    Will it take a 120mm fork though?

    Yup run mine with 120mm and no its not heavy , you could bur an angle/slackset in and head angle you want

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    Are you buying new? I have a scandal in the garage looking for a new home…

    You can often find cube frames on bikediscount.de. The sizing seems all to cock though so do check first if you go down that route, mate has an XL hardtail of theirs and it really feels like a medium to me.

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    on one parkwood? They were knocking them out for £80 a few weeks back

    Premier Icon core
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    I’ve a large v2 Scandal frame I wouldn’t be too sad to part with.

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    Kinesis FF29?

    Premier Icon bigjim
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    Are you buying new? I have a scandal in the garage looking for a new home…

    what size? it’s not for me, someone more normal.

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    Conveniently it is normal person sized, medium.

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    In the traditional recommend what you own approach, I bought a Titus rockstar fs frame @ Christmas time and it’s been superb! I have it set up with 100mm forks, but will take 120 too.

    Qr, 135 carbon rear end and alloy front triangle – very happy all day epic rides – done strathpuffer and jenn ride south lakes 100miler on it so far.

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    core, what colour is the large Scandal frame?

    Premier Icon core
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    Raw

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    I’d say the Swift too.

    You don’t need the EBB for SS purposes, but it also allows you to fine tune your riding position when using gears. Or have it up or down to effectively raise or lower your BB.

    Very useful things are EBBs. 🙂

    Plus the Swift is a very fine handling bike.

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    Yeah I like the swift but it probably weighs around the same as my Surly.

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    2nd hand Scandal?

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    garlic – Member
    Yeah I like the swift but it probably weighs around the same as my Surly.

    F&F the Swift if about 400g lighter. (just from online specs)

    Cheers, Steve

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    @ core

    How much are you after for the Scandal?

    Email in profile if you’d prefer.

    Sorry for the hijack btw.

    Premier Icon core
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    Your email doesn’t work, mine is in my profile, make me an offer……

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