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  • funkrodent
    Full Member

    Yup. Looks as if the Belarusian air force and/or army are as careless around munitions as their Russian counterparts. You’d think they’d have managed to institute a modicum of operational discipline by now. Then again..

    matt_outandabout
    Full Member

    Would it not be cheaper for Ukraine and NATO to supply cigarettes to the Russian forces currently?
    😉

    CountZero
    Full Member

    I’ve finally tracked down an article I read about a possible Ukrainian ballistic missile system I mentioned a few posts back.

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/does-ukraine-have-a-stash-of-domestically-developed-ballistic-missiles

    Drones operated by Ukrainian Special Forces are being mentioned as responsible for the damage to the Crimean air base, but those can’t possibly explain the two huge explosions shown in the videos, unless they hit two ammo dumps.

    It’s all very intriguing.

    Would it not be cheaper for Ukraine and NATO to supply cigarettes to the Russian forces currently?

    Suitably dosed with high-strength psychedelic drugs…

    …just to enhance their operational performance a bit.

    Greybeard
    Full Member

    those can’t possibly explain the two huge explosions shown in the videos, unless they hit two ammo dumps

    Drones could be an ideal device to attack ammo dumps. They will be protected from bombs and shells, but all a drone needs is an open door. Drones will only carry a small charge, so don’t do huge damage on their own, but it only needs a small charge in a place nobody expects one to set off a dump.

    timba
    Free Member

    Iran might be providing their drones to Russia, including some that are weapons-capable
    https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-officials-trained-iran-part-drone-deal-says-us-state-dept-2022-08-11/
    Iran has been developing drones since the mid 1980s and has advanced scientific and engineering capability. How much is hype and how capable they are remains to be seen

    timba
    Free Member

    Drones will only carry a small charge…snip

    Fifteen years ago the US dropped four GBU-49 Enhanced Paveway II 226.8kg (500lb) bombs from a Reaper drone, I don’t know what’s available to UKR now

    futonrivercrossing
    Free Member

    The craters on the airbase are huge, something like 20m across, you need something really big to make them!

    piemonster
    Full Member

    FP opinion piece, backed up with further reading which ive not been able to check.

    Russia’s Brutal Honesty Has Destroyed the West’s Appeasers

    Its paywalled if your confortable bypassing that.

    The perspective is that of a Russian journalist working for Meduza.

    It has no sympathy for th European left and takes a very hawkish line. Very much taking aim at what the journalist considers a reflexive “NATO is to blame” response that over rides (to varying degrees) what Russia is actually doing itself.

    Everything in Yale University historian Timothy Snyder’s “genocide handbook” has already been perpetrated in one form or another, including forced Russification and the abduction of thousands of Ukrainian children to be raised as Russians in the motherland. 

    I dont really know much about the suthor if anyone has any critique?

    thols2
    Free Member

    It has no sympathy for th European left and takes a very hawkish line.

    This sort of thing has been going on since the 1920s, with lefties willfully disregarding Soviet atrocities because they didn’t want to believe that anything about socialism could ever be bad or that anything about capitalism could ever be good. George Orwell, who was a socialist, got a lot of criticism from the left for reporting that the Spanish communists rounded up and executed members of other anti-fascist organizations in the Spanish Civil War. Orwell had joined an anarchist group and fought the fascists, but then had to flee for his life from the communists who he had believed were his allies. (And, of course, right wingers mistake Orwell as a critic of communism, when he was a critic of totalitarianism by both the left and the right. I can only assume that the right-wingers who quote Orwell have never actually read or understood anything that he wrote.)

    Sandwich
    Full Member

    lefty’s didn’t want to believe that anything about socialism

    They mistook communism for socialism, they are not the same. Done properly socialism will allow the (regulated) market to flourish whilst ensuring that all are provided for by that (regulated) market.

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    They mistook communism for socialism

    Exactly the US misunderstanding. Most of the “enlightened” nations combine a reasonably healthy mix of socialism and capitalism.

    futonrivercrossing
    Free Member

    Look no further than Gerard Schroeder – who’s solution to the German energy crisis is to open Nordstream 2 – self serving ****er

    thols2
    Free Member

    They mistook communism for socialism, they are not the same. Done properly socialism will allow the (regulated) market to flourish whilst ensuring that all are provided for by that (regulated) market.

    Communism is a totalitarian form of socialism. The core idea of socialism is that the means of production is nationalized, not privately owned. A regulated market with private ownership of capital is a liberal idea, not a socialist one. The Americans who think they’re socialists are actually just liberals. True socialists despise liberals because the idea of private ownership of capital and a market economy is exactly what socialism is opposed to.

    The problem was that Western socialists and liberals did not recognize that communists were totalitarian socialists, they heard the socialist bit of the message and willfully ignored the murderous totalitarian part because they did not want to admit that socialists could ever be on the wrong side.

    timba
    Free Member

    Look no further than Gerard Schroeder

    For a Marxist-based party that’s moved towards Socialism, the SPD seems to produce it’s share of scandal. Olaf Scholz can’t remember his meetings with the Warburg bank
    https://www.euronews.com/2022/08/11/olaf-scholz-pressure-grows-on-german-chancellor-over-alleged-tax-scam-ties

    Sandwich
    Full Member

    I think your definition of liberal is missing a minimally before the regulated. Well regulated is more of a modern socialist approach to the market.

    Communism was anything but socialist as ‘the many’ were not provided for according to their needs but granted the crumbs from the apparatchiks’ table.

    The only theory of government that doesn’t appear to evolve is that of the conservative parties be it Conservative this side of the pond or Republican on the other side.

    EDIT Though now we’re straying off-topic slightly.

    thols2
    Free Member

    Communism was anything but socialist

    I think George Orwell covered the failings of communism pretty well. Western socialists were furious with him because communists justified their system as being socialist and western socialists believed them. Whatever the case, there was willful blindness to the horrors that the communists unleashed. Similar thing is happening now with Russia, tankies are so blindly anti-capitalism that they believe that anyone who opposes the U.S. must be one of the good guys.

    thols2
    Free Member

    This seems like good news for the Ukrainians.

    futonrivercrossing
    Free Member

    If true, not great fro RA morale.

    nickc
    Full Member

    reporting that the Spanish communists

    Not to derail the thread, but I’ve been reading Beevor’s “The Battle for Spain” the behaviour of the Soviet officers in charge of the International Brigades was pretty brutal. Passports handed in by volunteers were routinely stolen and sent back to Russia for use by spies in the NKVD, volunteers returning from leave was fraught with danger, they were often shot as returning deserters, even requesting leave could result in you being executed. weapons were poor and it’s largely where the use of “human wave” tactics that they used in Finland the Eastern Front and so on.

    blokeuptheroad
    Full Member

    Interesting analysis of the true effects of Western sanctions on the Russian economy.  Suggests a lot of headlines saying sanctions aren’t that effective are inadvertently regurgitating Russian propaganda rather than looking at the verifiable underlying data.

    Things like the rouble not tanking are misleading because it’s not  really a currency which is widely traded on international currency markets.  The Russian stock market ‘only’ reducing in value by 50% is because half the stock is held by foreign investors who are not allowed to sell their now uninvestable stock – Russian investors have all pretty much dumped it. etc, etc – loads more examples.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Good but grim article about how w effective Russian artillery has been

    thols2
    Free Member

    Not to derail the thread, but I’ve been reading Beevor’s “The Battle for Spain” the behaviour of the Soviet officers in charge of the International Brigades was pretty brutal.

    Yep, and Western lefties refused to believe it.

    piemonster
    Full Member

    One for @seosamh

    If true, anyway…

    https://wartranslated.com/igor-girkins-detention-what-is-known/

    The Gherkin “detained” (allegedly)

    funkrodent
    Full Member

    The link below is to an interesting piece, looking at some depth as to how a Ukrainian offensive in the South – coupled with Russia’s well documented leadership, logistical and morale issues – would almost inevitably lead to a Russian collapse in both the South and the East.

    https://realcontextnews.com/how-ukraine-war-will-likely-go-rest-of-2022-or-kherson-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-russia/

    Don’t know much about the website – or indeed the author – so I’m not saying this is necessarily accurate, let alone definitive, but it is certainly compelling and he does seem to know about that of which he speaks.

    Happy to be debunked though!

    funkrodent
    Full Member

    Well this is good news!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62547403

    Looks like more crap operational security protocols have cost the Russkies dear. Some reports saying Putin’s chef is amongst those killed. We can but hope..🤞

    bruneep
    Full Member

    Looks like more crap operational security protocols have cost the Russkies dear

    They appear not to be the sharpest pencils in the box

    alpin
    Free Member

    Saw that the other day in reddit.

    It does make you wonder about the IQ levels of these people….

    bikesandboats
    Free Member

    Seems almost too stupid to me! Would be nice if it was really the Wagner HQ but I have some doubts.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Some reports saying Putin’s chef is amongst those killed. We can but hope..🤞

    Unfortunately there’s pictures of him examining the rubble after the strike

    Which is a shame as he seems like a piece of work

    They appear not to be the sharpest pencils in the box

    Doh. That’s why we’re always PED red on ops. Bunch of amateurs.

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    Would be nice if it was really the Wagner HQ but I have some doubts.

    I wondered too.

    timba
    Free Member

    President Putin opened Army-2022, an International Military-Technical exhibition in Moscow yesterday.
    He said that Russia’s weapons are years ahead of those from other countries “and in terms of tactical and technical characteristics they are significantly superior to them.”
    I think that he has an uphill sell on just now with customers concerned about performance, ongoing spares and replacement. This is possibly why the careless smoker stories abound 🙂

    He said that Russia’s weapons are years ahead of those from other countries “and in terms of tactical and technical characteristics they are significantly superior to them.”

    Wow.

    piemonster
    Full Member

    He said that Russia’s weapons are years ahead of those from other countries

    It will take decades, if its even possible at all. For anyone else to catch them in the Turret Throwing Competition.

    Im not really sure how much the invasion of Ukraine will really affect Russias arms sales beyond inability to supply because of the war in Ukraine.

    A significant chunk of sales are going to countries that want cheap arms for potential local conflicts or internal suppression of dissent. Possibly only really China that is planning for a direct conflict against advanced militaries.

    timba
    Free Member

    China was one of his biggest markets at 18.2% of Russian arms exports between 2016 and 2020. India was biggest at 23.3%. I’d guess that they’ll be at the more technical end too

    thols2
    Free Member

    I think that he has an uphill sell on just now with customers concerned about performance, ongoing spares and replacement.

    Ironically, the Ukrainian success using old Russian systems is the best advertisement that they are still effective with properly trained crews and decent maintenance.

    properly trained crews

    That’s the key part. You can have all the tech in the world but if your biological element isn’t trained, motivated & disciplined then you’re on the backfoot.

    thols2
    Free Member

    This is outside the range of the HIMARS rockets that Ukraine has officially been delivered. It’s going to make supplying Crimea and the southern front extremely difficult for Russia. Putin cannot abandon Crimea for political reasons, but defending it might be too much for Russian logistics to manage.

    timba
    Free Member

    Some “other way round” stats
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102702/countries-where-russia-is-a-major-arms-supplier/
    81% of China’s arms imports are Russian
    Belarus (100% Russian in that chart) has already completed it’s own programme of T72 updates

    futonrivercrossing
    Free Member

    Small print in the T72 sales contract – “Explosive Reactive Armour, may not contain actual explosive – but may be replaced with rubber, at the vendors discretion”. Always read the small print 😉

    Another view of the ammo dump attack;

    BOOM!

    Judging by the trajectory of the rockets cooking off, I don’t know if I’d want to be that close 🤷‍♂️

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