he was just such a dick about it.

That was always my beef with Lance and the reason why it’s impossible (and in fact morally repugnant) to view him as a scape-goat or victim.

And here we are back on that topic…it’s like the cycling equivalent of Godwin’s Law.

I read “it’s not about the bike” followed by “the secret race”
Never heard identical events described in such different ways before!
Started out thinking “lance – what a guy!” ended with “that’s the greatest work of fiction iv ever read lol”

Serial recycler mode -If anyone has a spare copy I’d buy it. -Serial recycler mode

Just finished it! Makes me quite sad for the sport how the culture went on for so long and difficult to believe that things are completely clean now…

I’d like to see some time comparisons between current tour and the lance years

I assume you guys have seen the press about institutionalised doping in West German sport the in 70’s alleges they were trying to keep up with the East Germans, a number of the 66 losing world cup squad were implicated.

Doping is everywhere and not just cycling.

The Millar book I enjoyed so I’ll add this one to the wish list

difficult to believe that things are completely clean now…

They’re not at all. Quite a few riders have been busted this year.

Lance ratting on Tyler. Wow just wow. What else happened? Maybe when Lancw was asking about ‘Madrid’ he also contacted the Spanish authorities? Who knows but he wasnt like the others was he? He played nasty.

People did try to tell you this before didn’t they?

😉

I can’t wait ’till Hora changes his mind about socialism too. 🙂

He’ll be supporting the Labour Party with a zeal unseen since Tony Benn were a lad.

Did someone mention womens racing?

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/06/news/ricco-set-to-appeal-12-year-doping-ban-to-world-sporting-court_225774

“Riccò’s girlfriend and mother of his young child, Vania Rossi, tested positive for EPO at the Italian cyclocross championships in January 2010.”

Chakaping. Yep. Those who believed feel the dumbest jackasses.

Would Tyler Hamilton have made a better tennis player than cyclist?

http://www.scotsman.com/scotland-on-sunday-2-7506/sport/other-sports/tom-english-tennis-and-the-anti-doping-debate-1-2992374

I also thought it was a good read, though I think I preferred David Millar’s- it is intelligently written and about more than just the drugs.

I really enjoyed both the Hamilton and Millar books, Hamilton’s was the more eye-opening in terms of the doping (I found it genuinely surprising how easy it actually was) but I found Millars the better read and could understand a little of why he doped.

Drugs in football? Pull the other one

http://balls.ie/cycling/transcript-of-stephen-roche-interview-about-doping-in-cycling-at-the-launch-of-the-giro/

“Do you think cycling is being picked on?
Stephen Roche: Yes, it’s a very easy target. It is being picked on. Could you imagine a similar scandal erupting in football. If the stadiums were all empty, an awful lot more money is lost and it hurts a lot more people, whereas if cycling goes down it doesn’t matter, people lose their jobs buts it’s no big deal. If football was hit or tennis was hit it would be a major bad coup for anyone involved in it. ”

I started reading Tyler’s book last night and am almost through it in one sitting. I’m astonished how easily I was duped by the Armstrong story. I can’t believe he wasn’t busted sooner.

I feel zero sympathy for Tyler though. The book seems geared at redemption of sorts.

great, just what the world needs, another book about road cyclists and doping. C’mon change the record and move on. I cant be ar5ed reading yet another one. Dull.

? Read the topic and/or the book? It sheds alot of light on LA/the dopers world. Its not ‘we already know this’ info- its nasty insider-stuff.

Thought the book was very good, didn’t pay for it however, that would have been plain wrong. 8)

I can’t stop reading all these cycling books – Millar, Hamilton, Kelly, etc – now on Michael Hutchinson’s book about his hour record attempt – the drugs stuff is a sideline, I’m hooked on the insight it gives into the lifestyle these guys have to lead to be successful (drugs or no drugs) – makes your own mundane life seem a bit “easy”….!!

I feel zero sympathy for Tyler though. The book seems geared at redemption of sorts.

I’m about three quarters of the way through, and maybe it changes towards the end, but it feels more like “if you’re wondering how it happens, this is it”, rather than a redemptive, “it’s not my fault” kind of gig.

now on Michael Hutchinson’s book about his hour record attempt

I love this book, more people should read it. 🙂

If anyone wants to read it but doesn’t want to give their money to a drug cheat I think I have an eBook copy that I could probably email to people.

but it feels more like “if you’re wondering how it happens, this is it”, rather than a redemptive, “it’s not my fault” kind of gig.

Yeah,that’s my take on it as well….

EDIT +1 for the hour attempt book as well,really enjoyed that one

I was absorbed by the Hamilton book. I took it to read on the train for one of my trips down for work and for once was glad of a delay to keep reading.

I even ended up chatting to a chap on the way down as he clocked the book and we started chatting cycling.

Glad you said that about Cav. I always have this dread that in person they are complete aholes but nice when they are a decent sort too. Same with Ed Clancy when I asked if he minded a pic with him after a race the other year.

Rasmussen’s book will probably make Hamilton’s book look like boys playing with needles.