Trail happy HT 29r recommendations
Here we go again… steeling myself for a new purchase after faffing about with a few ideas in true MTB style 😳
Having ridden a Whtye 829 (thanks to Variflex) and fallen in love I’m looking for options. LBS has one left (in the right size) but as I’m in no rush and rather enjoy making myself squirm with indecision lets have it, what do you recommend?
Setting £1,500 as my upper limit and definitely want a bike that’s more trail than XC, if that makes sense. Needs to be capable thrown downhill.
 by downhill read – riding fast down fun and sometimes technical singletrack, not DH tracks.
😀Posted 5 years agoFrankersMember
mattjg – Member
Mini-hijack: where’s the border between a trail ‘HT’ and an XC? Just head tube angle
Also this confuses me too
I have a Solaris that I ride for local xc and welsh trail centres so does this make it a trail or xc bike or is it more to do with fork length or ha that it has……Posted 5 years ago
Cheers guys. Steps out for a few hours and…
Thanks for the list Clink some bikes to read up on, the Transition does look very nice but a bit toppy for my budget. Already done the ‘big’ purchase.
That Highball looks lovely Shortcut, it’s in the right ball park so must go take a spin.
Mini-hijack: where’s the border between a trail ‘HT’ and an XC? Just head tube angle?
Point it down hill and do you get that ‘yippy’ sensation or ‘sh*t’ best watch my line…
Leaving figures aside my classification for an XC bike is light, fast but probably (not always) a bit twitchy due to geometry and weight. Good for racing. For a Trail bike it’s still quick and nimble but feels more planted and secure. Slightly heavier and probably slacker but mostly it’s a combination of unique rider size (weight, leg, reach etc) combined with a bikes unique feel. That’s why testing is so important, what’s good for one is not necessarily good for another and what might be a small difference can make a whole world of difference on the trail.
That’s why we like discussing this so much… lots of opinions! 😉Posted 5 years agoGotamaMember
Another vote for a Yelli. It really is a superb frame for hoofing down singletrack trails quickly. If you’re around the surrey hills and xl size you’re welcome to have a go on mine.
I bought mine second hand from someone on mtbr if you’re not fussed about new……and given the new price for the frame over here is 😯
Edit – Matt that also applies to you if you want to see the answer to your question above. Night and day between the swift and i love riding the swift but its an entirely different bike.Posted 5 years agomonkeyboyjcMember
er… Canyon?Posted 5 years ago
mines great and the 2013 ones are even better….
@gotama thx, yes I looked at those, crazy money in GBP, second hand is a good call I think. Ta for the offer but on an XL I think my feet wouldn’t touch the floor. I’ll keep an eye out for you.
I’m still in the market for another 29 HT myself – my plan is to have one setup as SS rigid for the slop and another, poshed up a bit with gears and suspension, for going quicker. But I’ve also become Surly-Krampus-curious which puts something of a spanner in the works!
ps now have a Hans Dampf on the front of the Swift and liked it so much I just ordered another for the back. So ‘rigid fat tyre’ seems to be where I’m heading …Posted 5 years ago
There’s the new Pipedream Skookum coming out sometime soon, but I suspect I’ll be getting something handmade and Italian for the same price as a Solaris.
Pipedream looks lovely, but many full-sus 29er have shorter chainstays than those now.Posted 5 years ago
You’re getting a Gas 29 then?househusbandSubscriber
You’re getting a Gas 29 then?
Highly likely! Just swithering over size.
And whether I want the race or the trail Stambek; would build up with carbon forks so probably the former. Great email response from them! Whereas Pipedream promised photos a week ago… 🙄
Know much about them? I don’t think there’s any in the UK.Posted 5 years agobowglieSubscriber
Another vote for the Giant XTC29ers. I’ve owned the aluminium version and now have the carbon version, and (perhaps strangely?) I preferred the alu version for general natural trail riding. I’ve played about in bike parks on both bikes, and even got down a full on DH course on the alu one without any twitchiness or drama – they really are way more than capable than their ‘XCey’ image.
I’ve also spent a couple of days demoing a Solaris on familiar trails (and managed to do back to back runs with Solaris & XTC Carbon). I found it very difficult to decide between the two, but if it was my only/main trail bike, I think I’d go for the Solaris. Personally, I thought the XTC was better in slower trials-ey technical terrain, and there’s no getting around its stiffness and weight advantage – but when the descents open up, the Solaris had got the extra stability & surefootedness to really let it run.
HTHPosted 5 years agojonstanleyMember
I’d vote for a Yelli, as that’s what I have and it’s ace… though your budget wouldn’t be able to build up the bike (without a lot of head scratching)?[url=http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/trail-happy-ht-29r-recommendations#post-4312398 wrote:
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Stuff on their FB page.
Interesting… and quite smart looking. Should be around the £300 mark. Bargain! Geo is much the same as a Canfield 29er (Yelli/Nimble9). Strange it’s for 120mm forks, considering the head angle is so slack (68.5deg)… though usually going up 20mm on any particular frame is “usually” okay. Still, one does wonder why they didn’t just go for 140mm right off the bat? 😯Posted 5 years agoz1ppyMember
Im looking for a similar bike myself, the yelli or banshee paradox V2 would be in contention if they were half the price.
Got down to the Kona Honzo or Genesis High Latitude as was concentrating on frame only option, as again I have a budget
The Kona Taro bike would be interesting if the spec wasn’t so poor (or am I expecting too much).
Been pushed away the Honzo due to the weight & pushed towards a whyte 929, though I wasn’t/not really looking to spend that much (pity no frame only option)
Waiting for a my m8’s insurance replacement high latitude to turn up, so I can give it a go & I’m investigating a demo of the whytePosted 5 years agotakisawa2Subscriber
Surly Krampus rumoured to be another £100 or so on your budget, when it comes out.
If you fancy something a bit left-field…
I’ve run this with a dropper post, & not found it at all wanting on anything I’ve thrown it down. Not my favourite type of riding though.Posted 5 years agojonstanleyMember
Livin’ out in Hong Kong now… so had the Yelli frame shipped direct from Canfield. The built kit was mostly from the awesome chappies at 18bikes.
The Yelli in its normal “monster truck” trim:
… and with the spare pair of super-discount wheels from CRC and Conti Race Kings (as it has been bone dry for weeks):
One day I’ll be man enough to tackle this (I’m sure the bike can!)…
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