- Trail centre maintenance and wheel sizes
This is a bit of a random thought I’ve had while pretending to slave away over my keyboard at work….
When trail centres perform maintenance on their trails these days do any of them take the opportunity to ‘upgrade’ the trails to make them more suitable (i.e. provide bigger challenges for) to the newer larger wheel sizes or are the technical features still based around your average riders 26″ wheels?
As 29ers are supposed to roll over smaller bumps easier and 650b apparently makes the trails come alive surely as they become more popular the trails will need to be made more difficult to provide more of a challenge.Posted 5 years ago
Funny enough I was speaking to Bob the South Wales Mountain Bike Ranger the other day, he was coyly talking about a ‘big bung’ he’d been given by ‘the industry’ to upgrade all the trail centres to 650b spec, further making 26″ wheeled bikes obsolete – he said the changes would be subtle but soon 26ers would actually become ‘less fun’ as we were all told they would be.Posted 5 years ago
cubemeup – Member
So lads who ride with 26″ wheels are going to struggle more then lads with 27 or 29 ? what a load of old bull shit .
totally agree, i have never heard of a trail being built for a wheel size that has to be BS
Just you wait and see, the power to change the contours of the earth is insignificant compared to the power of thePosted 5 years ago
All them mountains and tracks in the lake district/peaks/south downs/scotland etc certainly weren’t designed with any wheel size in mind.
Oh I dunno. I’ve encoutered a couple of waterbars put in by “Fix” The Fells in the Lakes that made me wonder, they were suspiciously *exactly* the right size to grab MTB wheels and stop them dead…Posted 5 years ago
P-Jay – Member
Okay – hands up, who is/was taking this seriously?
WTF?!? This was a joke? I’ve just been on the phone to the trail crew @ CyB warning them they’re in danger of becoming a white elephant if they don’t keep up with the modern trends.
I thought I heard laughing in the background…:/Posted 5 years agohs125Member
I heard from a reliable sauce in the aggregate industry that all newly upgraded sections of the red trail at Swinley are having a surface dressing of 21mm to dust, making them only rideable on 29ers. The blue will still be graded with 20mm to dust for at least 1 more year, so that riders of 26ers have somewhere to ride until the new government scrappage scheme is enforced. By then 20.31mm to dust will be being produced by most quarries, meaning that it can then be ridden on by 650b riders.Posted 5 years agoNorthwindSubscriber
I know of some holes which are comically 29 inch sized, everyone else can roll in one side and out the other but 29ers need to put some effort in or they get nicely trapped. So ideally, when you have a 29er in your group, you want to have them 3rd or 4th in line so they can see everyone else just trundle through them.
The only noticable differences between a 26 inch trail and a 650b trail, will be that the latter has enormous logos and is covered in journalist spaff.Posted 5 years agodoncorleoniMember
Swinley….. Definitely has been upgraded for 29ers and road bikes. Do any of you remember the 29 killer switchback on blue 17 climb? Used to amuse me greatly to sit at the top and watch all but the most gnarrrr 29ers make the bend. I am now faster on all sections on my rigid 29er than I was on my 26er. But you know what….. I have more fun on my tiny wheel bike than my clown bike. Clown bike good for miles…. Old school for smiles 🙂 you should all try little wheels 🙂Posted 5 years agopeter1979Member
jekkyl – Member
All them mountains and tracks in the lake district/peaks/south downs/scotland etc certainly weren’t designed with any wheel size in mind. I don’t think there’s any need to start worrying if you ride a 26″ wheelend bike. I won’t.
This is the main reason why some manufacturers are still selling 26ers, because it’s too labour intensive to upgrade the natural trails to suit the larger wheel sizes.Posted 5 years ago
Another thing is some of the more popular trails have put up signage next to features that are deemed not suitable for 26ers, with 26er chicken runs off to the side.
I’ve also heard that some trail centres are considering setting up 26er specific parking which is closer to the trail-head and, in some cases, futher along the trails to compensate for the extra pedaling diastance 26ers cover. Madness, all this expense, must be getting some serious back handers from the manufacturers.johnikgriffMember
I do volunteer trail maintance at my local trail centre. We have been given secret training, paid for by a “very” large manufacturer ( sorry can’t say anymore), to build trails that only “come alive” on 27.5 wheels, they don’t even seem to care about 29 any more. I cant say to much about the details, but suffice to say that the new trail is virtually un rideable on a 26 bike.Posted 5 years ago
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