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  • Tour de France Stage 9 – Arras Citadelle > Roubaix
  • lunge
    Full Member

    Finally, finally, after far to many sprint stages, we get something interesting, cobbles. Lovely. Big love, as ever to INRNG for most of the text and CyclingTips for most of the images, both damn fine websites in their own right and well worth a visit.

    A Tour de France stage hasn’t featured as many cobblestones since stage 12 from Compiègne to Roubaix in 1981 that had 27.1km of pavés divided in 27 sectors. Stage 9 includes 15 of them from km 47.5 to 8km to go, for a total of 21.7km non asphalted. The finish is located on the avenue Maxence Van der Meersch near the legendary velodrome and its indoor version “Le Stab”. It’s the most feared stage for the GC contenders. They can lose a lot of time and illusions before reaching the mountains. Some Paris-Roubaix specialists may have to look after their captains rather than hunt for a prestigious stage win: Sep Vanmarcke for Rigoberto Uran, Oliver Naesen for Romain Bardet, Matt Hayman for Adam Yates, Gianni Moscon for Chris Froome and Geraint Thomas who is second on GC and likely to take advantage of this specific stage to definitely position himself as a potential winner of the Tour de France. It’s shorter than a classic and many ingredients are different but it’s a spectacle not to be missed!

    All very fluffy from the Tour website, INRNG have a better intro in my opinion.

    The Route: 156km and packed with pavé. Normally the Tour borrows a few sections of cobbles, for example 13.3km in total during a long stage in 2015. This time it’s 21.7km, way more than recent editions. It’s also borrowing several of the harder sections and the final sector comes just 6km from the finish. It’s as close to remake of Paris-Roubaix as you can get within reason during the Tour de France but at 156km it’s 100km less and this will make the stage more explosive.

    As ever the cobbles are dramatic and strategic but the approach matters too, a sprint among riders to get into position each time. The first sector comes after 47.5km and the race takes the Route Nationale out of Cambrai, a big wide road that’s downhill before a sudden fork to the left onto the cobbled track. This entry is fraught with risk, the peloton will bear down at speed on a wide road and suddenly there’s only room to ride 2-3 abreast on the cobbles. Appropriately enough the sector ends next to a chapel called Our Lady of the Seven Sorrows.

    Readers will recognise the names like Pont Thibault, Cysoing and Mons-en-Pévèle but note they’re not always the same as Paris-Roubaix, for example Mons-en-Pévèle is reduced from 3,000 to 900m, still plenty.

    The Finish: flat and tarmac. The finish is outside the Roubaix velodromes, not on the track and nor is the approach the same as in April. There’s a left hand bend before the flamme rouge, a right hander just under the kite and then another right-hander with 400m to go.

    Relatively flat finish.

    The contenders? Will, INRNG is on the fence here, as rightly said, will the classics guys be on domestique duties and allow an unexpected rider to take it?

    The Contenders: there are several classics contenders in the bunch who are going to be on team duty today but this need not rule them out. Their job today is to tow their leaders into position and if done well then it means they’ll be in the front group coming into Roubaix. Still those without responsibilities can save themselves rather than close gaps all day. This makes Peter Sagan (Bora-Hansgrohe) the obvious pick, he can go for the stage while others in his team can shepherd Rafał Majka the best they can.

    Arnaud Démare (Groupama-FDJ) is a potential Paris-Roubaix winner and this stage suits him but can he stay in contention? Christophe Laporte (Cofidis) is similar and Cofidis are based near the finish so he and others will be active unlike recent stages were the red jerseys have been hard to spot.

    Will John Degenkolb (Trek-Segafredo) be able to ride for himself. If he doesn’t have to protect Bauke Mollema then he’s in with a chance in the sprint. A similar story with Daryl Impey at Mitchelton-Scott.

    Quick Step will try to get Fernando Gaviria in contention for the finish but the likes of Niki Terpstra and Yves Lampaert can play their own cards if the Colombian struggles but again this isn’t Paris-Roubaix with its 250km, it’ll be much harder for them to escape today as the peloton will be more lively and neither packs much of a sprint, perhaps Philippe Gilbert can play his card and Bob Jungels too.

    Another test of team ambitions is with BMC Racing. Greg Van Avermaet is a likely stage winner and with the yellow jersey he’s got an extra right to defend his race lead for one more day. But Richie Porte needs all the help he can get to defend his chances.

    Among the GC contenders it’s hard to see them winning the stage but they finish the day in a winning position. Geraint Thomas (Team Sky) has the comparative advantage, this is the terrain he can exploit better than the rest, especially since Chris Froome has a saddle sore and that’s not going to heal today and Sky will look to deploy all their riders to shake things up. Vincenzo Nibali (Bahrain-Merida) seems in his element too thanks to two flamboyant rides over the Tour’s pavé and the likes of Jacob Fuglsang (Astana) should fare well too but there’s an element of risk, a lottery. So the secondary competition today isn’t the stage win but to get ahead, stay out of trouble and, whisper it, hope that their rivals exactly the nightmare day they’ve been dreading. A puncture, a crash or just a gap opening up on one cobbled sector and suddenly someone aiming for the GC is losing time before they’ve even reached the first mountain stage.

    Finally because the pavé have a random element sometimes three left-field lucky dips: Jens Keukeleire (Lotto-Soudal), Damien Gaudin (Direct Energie) and Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg (Dimension Data)

    My ever inaccurate picks are either Sagan (knows his way around a cobble, little or no GC riders in his team to worry about as Majka doesn’t count!) or Nibali of the GC guys lead the show. However, keep your on Terpstra, he has a wonderful ability to just roll of the front that may work today.

    What about yesterday? Well, it was a typical day in France.

    kiwicraig
    Full Member

    Fantastic writeup as always Lunge.

    Fingers crossed Geraint Thomas gets the nod from sky to go on his own if the opportunity presents itself…

    grahamt1980
    Full Member

    It would be interesting to see sky and geraint have a go today.

    But as said, who knows what is going to happen, it’s going to be great

    everyone
    Free Member

    Didn’t realise that Froome has a saddle sore.

    Very excited for today’s stage.

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    No running down the edge today

    Didn’t realise that Froome has a saddle sore.

    Looks like the organisers did 😉

    Klunk
    Free Member

    wonder if Sagan will run the mechanical gears again and will G attack to gap Froome

    mikewsmith
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    G will be a marked man by the other teams especially if they think Froome isn’t 100% If Froome pops then I’m sure like the last time G will get the go ahead for a solo effort or with 1 teammate. I doubt there will be much sympathy for mechanicals today

    CaptainFlashheart
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    A day when the peloton rides bikes that are far more suited to us mortals for a change!

    Who will be  making the best of the technicals over the cobbles with the good tempo? With apologies to @kvanvlaminck

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    wonder if Sagan will run the mechanical gears again and will G attack to gap Froome

    If he’s still on the Venge, no chance as it’s only made for electronic gears. If he’s swapped to a Roubaix, he may just ride the same bike he won on last time (caliper brakes, mech gears).

    If he’s been given a new Roubaix, chances are it’ll be disc / electronic.

    My predictions: G will be well up there (top 10) or he’ll crash and lose 3 minutes. Froome will survive relatively unscathed. GVA will blow most of it to pieces – he’s got the form and experience to know this very well and go for a win in yellow. Sagan will be on his wheel all the way and as usual will be in the top 5.

    I still want Gilbert to win it – if he can do a long range on the final set of cobbles he might be in with a chance.

    muzz
    Free Member

    Got the makings of an incredible stage.

    Currently in the sofa waiting for it to start 1115 on Eurosport

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    Poor Dan Martin – that was such a good stage win he had the other day so to go out like that with a fractured vertebra is really unlucky. 🙁

    bikebouy
    Free Member

    Awesome, just come back from a 15k trail run in time for the stage.

    Degenkolb or Terpstra.

    John because he’s had a shit year training, and Nikki because he’s awesome.

    QS will dominate, don’t think Gerant has the hard man in him to do this one.. if it was raining and windy then maybe. Sagan, can’t rule him out can you.. super man that he is and plays, it’d be a sad day if he didn’t try.

    Outside bet? Daniel Oss, the most talented in the peloton yet held back to keep the stars shining. Stefan Kung or Stephane Dillier for real outsiders.

    Dry, fast, brutally hot.

    God I Love It.

    bikebouy
    Free Member

    What the hairy shirt that Adams wearing??

    Looks like my great aunts table cloth 🤦‍♀️

    scaredypants
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    Not sure I like this for a GT – even an “ordinary” flat stage can be a lottery

    I’m expecting chaos.  That’s what makes P-R great but I don’t want to see the GC disappear from somebody just because of a big crash or a mechanical.  I also think that the race for the win will be a bit weird with some potential (and actual) P-R winners just shepherding the GC man around

    Time trial would be fun 😉

    bikebouy
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    Dans still in the Tour, he hasn’t pulled out.

    scaredypants
    Full Member

    Crazylegs, it’s TONY Martin with the fractures (career-ending, I wonder)

    Hoping that Dan MIGHT make it through the day

    scaredypants
    Full Member

    and, man – that’s a bold shirt !

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    Dans still in the Tour, he hasn’t pulled out.

    Bloody hell, he’s going to suffer today!

    Crazylegs, it’s TONY Martin with the fractures (career-ending, I wonder)

    Ah, thanks for the clarification. Didn’t see any of it yesterday, was out of TV / social media contact all day so everything I’ve heard has been third hand.

    scaredypants
    Full Member

    Right, I’m off out to ride some bumpy roads on my 32s in homage – pray for me !

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    This is a fast start! Everyone wants to be in the break and “safe” for a little bit.

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    Oh that’s awful, poor Richie. That’s heartbreaking to see. 🙁

    Bustaspoke
    Free Member

    Not looking good for Porte…

    bikebouy
    Free Member

    Riches out… just confirmed busted CB.

    bikebouy
    Free Member

    Benoot out too 😰

    Rojas too…

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    This will completely change BMCs tactic – suddenly leaves GVA free to go for the stage win rather than look after Porte

    bikebouy
    Free Member

    Breaks gone, calmajenes in it 👍👍👍💪

    Wonder If this will stick 🤫

    Klunk
    Free Member

    bugger

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    What happened to Porte. Just switched it on.

    grahamt1980
    Full Member

    Crash in first 10k suspected broken collarbone

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    What happened to Porte. Just switched it on.

    Brutally fast early on, loads of riders trying to get into the break, trying to pull it back, trying to bridge and somewhere in the back 1/4 or so of the bunch was a touch of wheels as the bunch yo-yo’d with the changes in speed and negotiating road furniture. Wasn’t on TV, all the cameras were up the front.

    Porte’s crash really stabilised the peloton, they all sat up and suddenly the break went from 20″ up to a minute almost instantly, there was a second group of 4 chasers in between who pressed on.

    That’s a strong breakaway.

    markrh
    Free Member

    itv4 or eurosport?

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    Bugger for Porte, sounds like it was going to take one cock up before they calmed it down a bit, probably not the end of the drama

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    Oh for God’s sake, it’s his Di2 battery / controller! He’s not fiddling with a bar end plug!

    /facepalm.

    Something went wrong in that wheel change, my guess is he’s pulled a cable out or the wheel has gone in wrong and bent the mech, his gears aren’t working and he’s trying to adjust it.

    CaptainFlashheart
    Free Member

    Snapped Bianchi there!

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    Oops, someone snapped a Bianchi in half!

    Bustaspoke
    Free Member

    Groenwegen’s forks snapped?!!

    There’s a Astana rider with not more holes than material in his kit…

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    Groenwegen’s forks snapped?!!

    Steerer tube or headtube, couldn’t quite see.

    /mental note never to buy a Bianchi…

    lunge
    Full Member

    Finally, finally an interesting stage, this will be great fun to watch.

    bikebouy
    Free Member

    Groanwaggens a monster on a bike, it’s one reason I knicknamed him groanwaggon, because you can hear the bike groaning underneath him 🤪

    Damn… OSS at the side of the pavé 🤦‍♀️🥊

    Brutally hot and fast innit..

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    Finally, finally an interesting stage, this will be great fun to watch.

    A great race, a crap stage for the race though, kind of agree with O’Grady there these guys are not the right guys to be racing here. Too many crashes.

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