20mm front, 12mm through rear to go on enduro evo.

Is there anything that beats superstar for vfm?
Do superstar fit the reliability criteria?

Cheers

Superstar…
Excellent so far for me.
Dh and an xc wheel set on switch hubs. Great wheels.

+1 superstar evo have been as good for me as my hope hoops

Hope hoops (or build) for service backup forever more.

Hope hoops (or build) for service backup forever more.

Double the price of a set of superstars though.

Second hand hope hoops

717s on deore hubs gotta be a good start?

Double the price of a set of superstars though

Really? I’m out of touch. I think my pro2 dt5.1s were about £220.

717s on deore hubs gotta be a good start?

LOL

Deore hubs with something like a 521 rim? Not in any way glamorous but cheap and sturdy.

Deores won’t fit I imagine, don’t think they come in those axle configurations

Im with gaverin and daveh -secondhand pro2’s would be my choice, if I couldn’t afford new, everything to rebuild them is easily available, and they’ve got great support.

Otherwise, assuming you’re on a build from a frame only, try hunting down a secondhand set of the Specialized Roval wheels that come on a lot of their bikes- because the rear wheel is 142+, not plain old 142 the rear will only fit Specialized frames, limiting the market for them. If you let the seller know that, and play hardball you might be able to get a pair pretty cheap.

Don’t think Superstar fit the reliability criteria, unless you can trim the wheels up yourself when you get them.

Someone on the swinley facebook page just narrated his new SS wheel collapsing as all the spokes went lose, and I have read several posts and reviews which say that they were all right after SS straighten them back up as they had gone out of true soon after they got them.

Otherwise, assuming you’re on a build from a frame only, try hunting down a secondhand set of the Specialized Roval wheels that come on a lot of their bikes- because the rear wheel is 142+, not plain old 142 the rear will only fit Specialized frames, limiting the market for them. If you let the seller know that, and play hardball you might be able to get a pair pretty cheap.

I actually need to replace the rovals. Will standard 142 rear hubs fit a specialised if the 142+ is different?

Superstar and a mate who can rebuild them in case they turn wonky after a few rides. (amongst our mates we have 2 sets hardly ridden and still straight, and 2 sets that went loose after a few rides and re-tensioned). But unless you already have hubs or rims to use, you might as well buy them as you save circa 20% on buying the rim/hub/spokes and if you were building or getting them built anyway, you haven’t really lost anything.

What’s your budget?

I was tempted by Superstar but I wanted the Mavic 721 rims and had to add a supplement for the axle I needed – which brought them to £220.

Hope Hoops were £270-ish so I went for them instead.