today's helmet cam footage – now the motorbikers are after us!
Hopefully no one will be against the cyclist today!Posted 4 years agoHoratioHufnagelMember
For some reason theres bus stops every 50 yards in London. If you cycle on the left you never get anywhere as a bus will stop in front of you after no more than 20 seconds and no-one will let you out to go around. The left lane in london is either for busses or undertaking people who are waiting to turn right.Posted 4 years agoTurnerGuyMember
taking the lane, in a busy, dark street, right thing to do IMO, I’d do the same
there were no obstacles on the left for hundreds of yards and the road was in good condition.
He could have avoided riding ‘in the gutter’ without leaving enough room on the left that a moped could fit comfortably through.
There’s such a thing as consideration for other road users, and if he had have been showing much consideration I think he would have been further over to the left, whilst being assertive enough to cause people to think when overtaking him and being in a position where he only had to move out a bit to pass parked car/buses/etc.
Obviously the moped rider was a dick for the kicking action. But his position on an empty road wasn’t good in terms of avoiding invoking road rage in other road users.Posted 4 years ago
There’s such a thing as consideration for other road users,
road is narrow enough for drivers to have to go atleast a couple of feet into the right hand lane to overtake so it’s no great inconvenience to go another few feet and be fully in the right hand lane to overtake properly. He was shifting aswell, he wasn’t exactly bimbling along causing a rolling roadblock was he? and when a cycle lane appeared he moved into it I don’t think he was making a statement, just taking the lane.
But his position on an empty road wasn’t good in terms of avoiding invoking road rage in other road users
due to the significant minority of nutters around, at home on the turbo trainer is the only position available to cyclists to avoid invoking their wrath.Posted 4 years agobailsSubscriber
At around 15 seconds in the youtube vid the moped rider is riding along the zig zags for the crossing. In order to get past on the left of the cyclist his left arm was probably over the kerb. Not exactly hugging the right of the outside lane!
The lane to their right is also empty.
But hey, they wobbly video shot in the dark while it’s raining doesn’t show the road surface in any real detail, therefore it must be fine and the cyclist was just trying to wind people up or ‘make a point’. Unlike the poor moped rider who undertook FOR NO REASON and tried to kick someone off in traffic, he wasn’t making a point, he was just a victim of the cyclist. 🙄Posted 4 years agobigyinnMember
IMO its quite a wide lane, so if he leaves too much space on his right (whilst staying out of the guuter) cars will try and squeeze through. If he rides in the middle of the lane cars wont be able to squeeze past, but scooters / motorbikes will be tempted to pass him on the left.Posted 4 years ago
Given cars are by and large the most prevalent vehicles on the road, his position is probably right for the circumstances.
That manouvere by the scootrist is just plain crazy and you cant really account for that sort of stupidity.PeterPoddyMember
Cyclist was a little far out but he has every right to be.
SCOOTERIST was a tool
I actually had an L-plated scooter rider undertake me (on motorbike) a couple of weeks ago. I don’t think he was expecting to stop at the lights though and have a sweary northerner give him a right earful. He couldn’t get a word in edgeways!Posted 4 years agoHoratioHufnagelMember
“This guy did exactly the same to me except without the kick a few weeks ago in Bermondsey. Undertook me whilst shouting that I shouldn’t take up the whole lane and sped off when I ignored him. He then attacked a cyclist near the entrance to the Rotherhithe tunnel. I gave the reg plate to the other cyclist but doesn’t look like he reported it.
EDIT: Was 11th December when incident took place.”Posted 4 years ago
Update – the Rozzers are taking action:
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