Titus el guapo ????

I’ve got a medium frame with a brand new Monarch shock for sale at the moment. Its a victim of its own success really as it rides and especially climbs so well that I find myself sat down all the time and its hurting my back. Could be a bargain for someone 🙂

How much dropoff? And what year is it?

@chillidave call TF and explain you are not getting full travel

Pridds… who are TF? (yes i’m a noob!) and does it matter that i got my CCDBa from on one with my frame? i’m getting about 85% of the travel on mine and don’t really want to run any more sag and any less LSC/HSC….

here’s mine by the way:

love it, it’s a big beast of a bike 8)

I’m kind of waiting for the 29’er version

If we’re doing pics, here’s mine:

Note the fashionable home-made mudguard 😉 Draws many an admiring glance…

its hurting my back

Oddly this is why I’m selling mine too. Though the fault is mostly me being a lanky git (6’4″) and it’s really too small for me to be doing XC nonsense on!

I’d think the BB would be a bit low with 150 revs on. It’s low with the totems at 160 (more than +10 over revs IIRC) and whilst it feels good, lower might be too low. And even with these I was considering a -1 degree set of cups. Also revs might be a bit flexy? More a long travel XC fork than a short travel DH fork which is what it really deserves IMO.

Sorry TF are TF Tuned Shox who do the servicing for Cane Creek shocks n the UK
Contact info here
http://www.tftunedshox.com/contact/contact.aspx
They are very helpful and know their onions. They also gave me a suggested tune for mine which i am still contemplating but is interesting to compare to where i had it pre upgrade
As long as you can show you bought the frame with the shock then they will be able to do it under warranty
After mine was done i was able to run it with less sag and get more travel.

cheers man

IA – check you FS thread please

@Pridds, thanks very much for the advice, I’ll give them a call in the morning.

Hi Wors, original ad here http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/titus-el-guapo-frame-1 Price dropped to £450 + delivery

anyone run one with 150mm revs and an angleset?

revs yes, angleset no. plenty slack enough, or did you mean in reverse to raise it up? i was considering.
we’ve been over this well on mtbr, fork length makes only a small (few mm) difference to bb height, real issue was early v3 frames were well out of spec, approx 20mm drop when it should be 0. this would need, i forget, roughly a 220mm imaginary RS fork i think to counteract!
revs are great btw, makes for a great climber and probably not too flexy unless you’re big and doing big DH.
monarch is also great, i’d say as as good as an RP23, but the way the lever works doesn’t give any lockout (not really low speed compression as in ProPedal). can’t comment on CCDB but what i’ve seen from people with all the shocks to try is the CCDB doesn’t particularly suit this frame either (maybe that’s pre-modification?). Monarch Plus might be the way to go? check mtbr forum for more info.
another + for this combo is it’s user serviceable.

Read the thread on MTBR a while ago but have you got a link to the thread and have on one offered a solution for those with an early frame?

yes BB issue has been sorted (imo at least) see the following link for a 10 page thread re BB issues, and my input on page 10…
click me

Ah interesting. I always wondered why some people complained about an over-low BB, as I always found mine low but fine. But that there were some early V3s with issues explains it, as I’ve got a late V2 which presumably doesn’t have the issues.

The low bb issue what model/year was this an issue?

From the links above it seems to be the early V3s, so that would be spring 2012 on I guess?

Further investigating reveals mine’s a V1, which confusingly isn’t the first EG but rather the first on-one EG.

As far as I can tell:

V1 – 1.5″ headtube, cable guides on headtube (what I have/am selling)
V2 – taper headtube, cable guides change.
V3 early – taper headtube, 1 degree slacker, 10mm longer, “too low” bb
V3 revised – “fixed” bb.

This seem correct anyone?

V1 – 1.5″ headtube, cable guides on headtube (what I have/am selling)
V2 – taper headtube, cable guides change.
V3 early – taper headtube, 1 degree slacker, 10mm longer, “too low” bb
V3 revised – “fixed” bb.

V1 refers to the first version we brought into the UK when Planet X bought Titus. Not the first ever El Guapo. So yes, you’re right.
V2 – Correct.
V3 – No, not really… Frame was optimised for longer fork, which means that the seat angle is steeper for a given fork length, but the head angle was slackened a degree too. Which means that for a given fork the BB is also lower. Some of these models had a jigging error and had a BB that was too low, but by no means all of them.

So are all the models for sale on the website now clear of jigging error/bb issue? Only asking as I’m trying to convince a mate to buy one.

Funnily enough I am also thinking about replacing my 06 Enduro with an El Guapo. There must be something strange that draws Enduro owners to El Guapos.

Brant
How can it be determined which frame is the ones with the jigging error?? without building up a bike?
also are these frame warranty re-placable??

Hi Brant, I received mine shortly after the new V3 was launched. Is the string between axles and measuring the offset sufficent for you to know if it’s one which was subject to the jigging error or is there a better way to tell?

Here’s mine:

Edit: or not for some reason!

I bought one in July and would also like to be able to tell which version I have.

kevin1911 – Member
I bought one in July and would also like to be able to tell which version I have.

do you have issues? or does the bike perform in the way you’d like it to?

if it performs to your satisfaction, then what does it matter?

if you’re having issues, you’ve already got your answer 😉

Not having issues, just curious which version it is, and whether it might be one with the jigging issue.

Besides, not sure I’d really notice if the BB was a few baw hairs too low.

Is the string between axles and measuring the offset sufficent for you to know if it’s one which was subject to the jigging error

yes

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So would you say the current ready to ride el guapo on the website is set up geometry wise how it should be? Right fork etc?

Is the string between axles and measuring the offset sufficent for you to know if it’s one which was subject to the jigging error

yes

Measured mine and the drop is about 10mm. Explains the large number of pins in my pedals that are now just stumps!

current bike should be good. try riding with -22mm – ratchet cranks anyone?

Looking at the on-one site it says a 67 degree head angle but then recommends 150-160mm forks. Is that 67 with a 150 or 160 fork? I presume a 150mm and on-one smoothie headset (with 15mm lower cup)

Looking at the on-one site it says a 67 degree head angle but then recommends 150-160mm forks. Is that 67 with a 150 or 160 fork? I presume a 150mm and on-one smoothie headset (with 15mm lower cup)

My bro has just got a el guapo im waiting for the large orange one to come in stock..
he used a 150mm fork but he kept bashing pedals so upgraded to 160mm which apparently is the best for fork frame so i guess the angles were done with a 160mm

But a 150mm fork with a smoothie headset is the same a2c as a lyrik and flush headset

waiting for the large orange one to come in stock..

I can help there, I’d do you frame and forks for what just the frame would cost new, or frame and dropper posted… Ok a new one would be a degree slacker, but the money saved would more than pay for a slackset if you tried it and wanted slacker…(totems fairly long tho)

Remember seeing one on a pootle. Lovely in orange but ‘unusual’ looking.

I read on mtbr over the issues and do you really need to run 160mm forks with them?

**** all secondhand out there.

I have got a V3 running 150mm forks feels good to me, I run about 25% sag at the front which give it the same geo as 160 at 30%. The bike really comes into it’s own on fast technical descents and I also really appreciate how it handles technical climbs, lots of grip. You do need proper pedal technique as the bb is lowish but the flip side of this is you get this amazing planted feeling in fast corners.

Seems like on one are NEVER going to stock them again. Mate wants a medium with a ccdb…

The 29er looks exciting 130 rear 150 front. I think as long as they haven’t had QC issues as the factory they must be going on sale soonish.

I’ve got a large EG and am loving it! I’m running 150 mm Sektors as that is what I had and don’t find the BB too low although mine is one of the latest batch and so any problems should be sorted by now. As stated I think the fork lenghth is fine but I find them a bit flexy at the kind of speeds that this bike encourages (especialy with over 100 kgs of finest Derbyshireman behind them!)and so am saveing for something with 36mm stantions.