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  • Cotic Soda R.I.P

    2011 Cove Hummer insurance replacement

    R.I.P

    Poo

    Strange place to crack and plenty of seatpost in frame.

    MM

    float
    Member

    for some reason i think ive seen a few other pics of titanium frames fail there 😕 ill try and see if i can find the thread…

    bol
    Member

    I’ve seen one go just there before. Silverfish will see you right.

    I don’t buy into the ti bike for life thing. We buy them because they are light and shiny. They break like everything else.

    Premier Icon bedmaker
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    steel is real

    float
    Member

    here we go, near the bottom of the page.

    sorry for your loss, isnt it a warranty job for cotic?

    IvanDobski
    Member

    Yeah, steel never breaks…

    Who built the soda and hummer?

    allthepies
    Member

    Yup, had a Ti frame crack exactly there before.

    No more ££££ Ti frames for me anymore.

    monkeyboyjc
    Member

    i may be wrong but I think its the weld interface between the 4 tubes that joint there – all that heat weakens it.

    MrSmith
    Member

    ‘Ti, bike for life’ is an internet forum myth that the doe-eyed fanboys use to reassure their buying choices.
    titanium fatigues and breaks as much as any other frame material.

    That’s the 4th or 5th I’ve seen in exactly that spot

    Ringo
    Member

    Yep ti breaks, which is why I like having a lifetime warranty

    Premier Icon ton
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    i reckon that the only ‘bike for life’ would be a kona clump tubed hardtail.
    the hoss or shred type of frame is pretty indestructable, i have never seen tubing as thick!

    I know they are not for life…thought it would be a good title 😉

    The soda was out of warranty when it broke so had to claim on insurance. They wouldn’t deal with Cotic so ended up with the hummer. It’s a great bike and I’m a bit gutted!

    Float…thanks for the link. Notice who started that thread too 😉

    Hopefully Silverfish will sort me ok and they have a frame in stock! It has a 5 year warranty so should be fine. Have some pics to send the shop tomorrow.

    MM

    haggis1978
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    ive got an old Kona King Kahuna that cracked there as well. sorry to see that bud, i know your pain 🙁

    Premier Icon LeeW
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    Yep ti breaks, which is why I like having a lifetime warranty

    Doesn’t mean a lot unfortunately.

    “all things considered, we consider 4 years of use is an acceptable lifetime for a mtb frame.”

    The email said something along those lines anyway.

    Had a Lynskey go there too. Mine was along the bead of the weld. Too much heat in the weld???

    john_l
    Member

    My 2010 Lynskey went there too. They’ve really beefed the seat tube sleeve up on the replacement/new models.

    PeterPoddy
    Member

    steel is real

    WTF is this meant to mean? What does it mean? NOTHING. NOTHING AT ALL.

    Does it imply that other substances are somehow a figment of our imagination?

    Premier Icon Wally
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    MM – it’s that Epping Mud, dangerous stuff. Sorry to see this – Odd how the Tinbred in your group is still going strong all these years yet not your Ti frames. Good luck with Silverfish.

    TheDoctor
    Member

    Thats why you don’t buy cheap Ti frames, How many Moots, Kish or Serotta’s do you ever see cracked? None!

    yhedoctor – probably due to their infrequent numbers too…..

    MrSmith
    Member

    How many Moots, Kish or Serotta’s do you ever see cracked? None!

    spurious internet rumour.

    Thats why you don’t buy cheap Ti frames, How many Moots, Kish or Serotta’s do you ever see cracked? None!

    Its cos the people who buy those sorts of frames dont actually ride them.

    Theres a guy on here who has a daft amount (7 or 8 i think) titanium bikes. I bet they barely cover any miles at all.

    TheDoctor
    Member

    To those above, buy cheap poorly made Ti frames and expect the worst, but a well made Ti frame and it will last, end of, anybody who thinks differently is an IDIOT!

    You’re a bloody devils advocate you are. I dont believe you believe what you’re on about.

    ti_pin_man
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    Buy cheap buy twice. Still riding a 94 ti frame. Ti might not be for life but chances are if you buy a decent one it’ll last a damn site longer than most other materials, Steel maybe exception.

    so litespeed and lynskey are cheap and incapable , hahahahaha….

    Klunk
    Member

    didn’t take much looking cracked moots

    TheDoctor
    Member

    so litespeed and lynskey are cheap and incapable

    Dur yes!

    didn’t take much looking cracked moots

    Incorrect assembly by monkeys doesn’t count

    MrSmith
    Member

    You’re a bloody devils advocate you are. I dont believe you believe what you’re on about.

    oh i believe he does 🙄

    thedoctor – incapable…………………………? hahahahahahaha….

    who are you ? valentino, n’est ce pas 🙂

    Klunk
    Member

    I have a 2004 moots smoothie Al, that I dont beat on at all…I baby this bike. I cracked first on the rear triangle, where the right chainstay meets the pivot assembly. This was a known weak spot on these bikes so I wasnt all that surprised to have it happen.I had it fixed, and began riding again. I was very surprised to find a 3 inch long crack on the front triangle along the weld where the downtube, seattube, and BB assembly come together!! This happened only 3 rides after the rear triangle was repaired. I never thought I would say this, but I wish I would have bought a trek or cannondale instead of a moots!!!! Because they offer lifetime warranties on all their frames!! I dont understand why moots only offers a 2 year warranty on Al products!?!?! It just doesnt make sense. Its like they are building a weak product and they know it!!!

    from mtbr

    Klunk
    Member

    google search of…

    site:forums.mtbr.com cracked moots

    1060 results, which i suggest is quite a few for an uncommon bike.

    druidh
    Member

    I’ve seen more Lynskey-made frame failures than all other brands put together.

    skywalker
    Member

    I’ve seen more Lynskey-made frame failures than all other brands put together.

    Except Lappiere and Commencal

    druidh
    Member

    druidh – Member
    I’ve seen more Lynskey-made frame failures than all other brands put together.

    I mean “in the flesh”, not pictures on t’internet.

    johnners
    Member

    I’ve seen more Lynskey-made frame failures than all other brands put together.

    Did Lynskey make the Soda then?

    😉

    Premier Icon captaindanger
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    Geeky post alert. That’s a shame. I checked fatigue life of Ti I think it’s wrought on page 455 which is the one we’re looking at in bike frames, thiough someone might tell me otherwise.

    Anyway it does fatigue, although I can’t be bothered to work out what those graphs mean in bike frames. I remember in my materials lectures being told that it has a very high crack propogation, so small cracks will quickly become big ones, even scratches. Luckily it’s very hard so they don’t get scratched too much.

    Premier Icon takisawa2
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    Seeing all the cracked Ti frames on here has put me off ever buying one.

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