Time for Nick Clegg to go
Tories form minority Govt.
Everyone sees that Cameron is worse than Brown.
Another election next year with a different Labour leader.
Electoral reform is on the agenda with a Labour win or another hung Parliament.
Another hung Parliament with Labour back in the driving seat.
We all live happily ever after.*
*Assuming nothing important happens in the rest of the world to change things here.Posted 7 years ago
It would be rude to allow the Lib-dems to form any government considering the amount of votes that they actually mustered.
Come on! Just under 23% – between 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 of the people don't count?
If there is one single conclusion from this election it is that there is no place for adversarial politics in this country today.
What's so bad about people negotiating big decisions anyway?Posted 7 years agoGarry_LagerSubscriber
They're not a credible party of government at the moment, and given the colossal disappointment of their performance today, it's hard to see them ever getting things together. Full credit to Clegg for grasping his opportunity in the debates and mixing it up, but too many of their policies didn't stand up to scrutiny.
Was sure they would take my constituency (Edinburgh Sth) which was ultra marginal, but they couldn't even manage that. The labour guy hung on by an arse hair.Posted 7 years ago
It really is a fairly pathetic showing by the Tories – the fact that they couldn't beat a fairly unpopular leader after 13 years of Labour, one who happens to have been in charge during a world financial crisis, and with the ridiculous level of support Cameron received in the media. Virtually all the papers yesterday were loudly cheerleading for Cameron, with the Mail claiming not voting for him would bring about armageddon. They really can't claim to have any kind of mandate.
Oh yeah, and looking at the maps – can the north of England, Scotland and Wales please form a separate countryPosted 7 years agouplinkMember
Why? Does parliamentary voting for non-government held seats tend to automatically oppose the government?
No, but sooner or later with a minority gov they'll face a vote of no confidence over some issue or other – & I think there's going to be lots of potential issues to cause this in the near future
looking at the numbers, I'm not sure that we can come out of this with any long term workable solution, whoever gets to form a government is going to struggle.Posted 7 years agoHeathenWoodsMember
Conservative government, for, oh, about 9 months I reckon and then we do it all again.
Not bad, my guess is that they'll get 11 months – who's going to risk depending on their core support in a low winter turnout at the moment? The vote of no confidence will come but Labour will have to go through a leadership contest, s/he will have to establish themselves in the media so maybe even 14 months?Posted 7 years agoGarry_LagerSubscriber
Aye, if Labour can manage to get Gordon to f_ck off they will swan any quick election that gets called. 9 months of Dave making a show of himself, Darling or Milliband find their testes and tell Gordon to get on his bike, and the natural party of government returns to lead us all to prosperity and the broad sunlit uplands 🙂Posted 7 years agosimonkMember
I seriously doubt any of the parties will really work together and actually work for the good of the people, i can see it just decending into a mire and the everyone suffering even more.Posted 7 years ago
Looking at the results i did expect (hope) for a better showing for the Lib Dems.ernie_lynchMember
With most results in, the Lib Dem vote is up 0.9% on 2005, Labour down 6.5% and the Conservatives up 4%.
So up less than one percent then ?
The LibDems should have been raking in the votes from disillusioned voters.
Maybe the British electorate is more interested in "policies" rather than "personalities" after all ?Posted 7 years agoGeronimoMember
The Lib-Dems were victims of the ludicrous first-past-the-post system, again. Principles are all very well, but it is a FACT that if you live in a constituency with an intransigent, herd mentality (ie. MOST constituencies), a vote for anyone other than the incumbent party is a wasted vote.
Our system appears to be rooted in the days when the (few, male, influential) voters in a village elected a local chap (Tory or Whig) to go and vote on their behalf down in 'that London' and news would occasionally filter back to the town.
In recent decades the traditional working class voted for Labour and 'posh' people for the Tories. New-Labour kept the old voters (because the word "Labour" was still on the ballot?) , but also sucked-in many of the Thatcher fans.
Nowadays we can email the Prime Minister, conduct an internet campaign, get onto TV news etc. I don't really value my local MP as the city council are responsible for much of the 'local' issues, not a bloke who sits in Westminster towing the party line.Posted 7 years agotiger_roachMember
It really is a fairly pathetic showing by the Tories
Well going by what I read here a lot of people are more interested in their hatred of what happened in the 80s than Labour's recent record so the Tories have got a lot to battle against.
If they had won outright there'd just be more hatred as they attempted to sort out the deficit – Labour were over-spending so we were living in an unsustainable society and no we have to pay.Posted 7 years ago
Clegg lost his way on his immigration & European policies
Actually I think the Lib Dems are ahead of their time on immigration, but probably didn't explain themselves well enough.
I thought it was the low point of the debates for the Lib Dems when Cameron and Brown both agreed that the Lib Dem "amnesty" for immigrants was a bad idea. Clegg should have rebutted that much harder given that that isn't the Lib Dem policy.
In fact the Lib Dems are the only party to have grasped the nettle on immigration by accepting that there is no way that we are ever going to get rid of long term illegal immigrants, given that we just don't know who they are or where they live and work.
The vast majority of immigrants to the this country are from within Europe and are legal immigrants, not illegal ones.Posted 7 years agoMSPSubscriber
The lib dems suffered in the end because of the media scare mongering about a hung parliment.Posted 7 years ago
If so much of the country is so stupid as to vote for who they are told to vote for rather than thinking for themselves, then the old saying is true, the country gets the government it deserves.
The problem with proportional representation though is that it would probably lead to more hung parliaments.
That's the whole point really. It means you don't get mad policies like the Poll Tax or the Invasion of Iraq brought in because of the ideology of the PM.Posted 7 years ago
Indeed – my vote counted for 0.063 of a vote. Pretty pointless.
I did until recently think that PR was a bad thing but these days, I think our politicians are typically so bad (and this is made worse by the result which suggests that people don't blame labour for massively overspending during boom times and not putting anything aside, irrespective of how good/bad you think the rest of their time in power has been. As such, unlike the Tories, there's a realistic chance that they'll get back in when a coalition breaks down and be just as bad as they are now but with a nicer, smilier figure head) that anything that helps keep them in check is probably a good thing IMO.Posted 7 years agofatboysloMember
No way is it time for Nick to go … though I guess both Gordon and Dave would wish he would.
Party Gain Loss Net Votes % +/-%
Conservative 290 94 3 +91 10,135,228 36.1 +3.9
Labour 247 2 87 -85 8,194,900 29.2 -6.3
Liberal Democrat 51 7 13 -6 6,421,841 22.9 +1.0
Only in the current flawed system could a party get more votes and actually get less seats !
It is now time for REAL CHANGE, get rid of the first past the post conflict politics which hold the country back and instigate real Democratic 'work together for the best ' type politics.
And don't let Gordon and Dave fool you on immigration … there is absolutely NOTHING which can be done about the vast majority of it as it is from within the EU, only Nick was brave enough to tell the truth on it and only Nick has the right plan to tackle any such issues in the future ……
Oh well I guess if history is anything to go by at least we won't have to wait another 5 years for it to all happen again 😉
Voter power in Harrogate & Knaresborough
0.161Posted 7 years ago
Very safe …. OOOPS ! think they got that bit wrong … though I just can;t see why Cons won it back after making such a mess at loal level 🙁
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