I really really wish I did not have to sell mine but as I am about to join Broon’s army of Doleite’s very soon I have no choice. Prince Albert here I come

cyclelife. Nail, head.

What a load of utter boll@x.

I have a steel 456, which IMO is great bike, but FFS stop using these throwaway, nonsensical, marketing-driven superlatives to describe a bicycle.

cyclelife/vdubber… so does that mean that neither of you think there is any difference in the ride characteristics of different HT frames then?

If on the off chance you do think there are differences, how then would you go about describing those differences in ride without using ‘nonsensical, marketing-driven superlatives’?

What made me smile was when TLR described how brilliant Brant was to have designed the bent top tube of the ti 456 to act like a leaf spring, then Brant arrived (possibly on another thread) and described how the bend was to allow maximum standover clearance without leaving much seat tube extension above the top tube (to avoid stress on the ti st).

Well it made me smile anyway.

Enthusiasm about bikes, especially ones own is great, just don’t misinterpret it as objective, scientific analysis.

how about ‘It’s not bad, that’, ‘goes well on the swoopy stuff’ and ‘synergises a paradigm shift in my blue-sky riding’

What made me smile was when TLR described how brilliant Brant was to have designed the bent top tube of the ti 456 to act like a leaf spring

He was taking the piss with that comment wasnt he?

fair point funkynick, and I was probably being overly harsh. I just think some people too easily repeat what the marketing says.

I just think some people too easily repeat what the marketing says.

What marketing was that?

I would follow any marketing led/spoken by Swiss Tony..

# Washing a car – Washing a car, is very much like making love to a beautiful woman. You’ve got to caress the bodywork. Breathe softly and gently. And give every inch of it your loving attention. And make sure you’ve got a nice wet sponge.
# Laying a carpet – Laying a carpet is very much like making love to a beautiful woman. You check the dimensions, lay her out on the floor, pin her down, walk all over her. If you’re adventurous, like me, you might like to try an underlay.

is it not just fugly though?
eye of beholder an all that but come on man its got a bendy top tube 😕
anyways what the lecht says is not bollox loads of numb riders on here i reckon.

and again in english?

if you are unable to work that out perhaps you should work on yours 🙄

anyways what the lecht says is not bollox loads of numb riders on here i reckon

Sorry you lost me there too…. numb riders?

What a great thread. I wish I had a ti 456.

I wish I had some carpet to lay.

I wish I could be arsed to wash my car.

Anyway, what’s this about the Scandal not being made of Scandium?

brant – sorry I wasn’t being specific about Ti 456s…just a general observation re bikes and marketing.

Now just needs wheels and brakes.

and bars, and saddle, and drivechain and……
are you sure you know what your doing building a bike? 😉

Great thread.
In my opinion it is a bike to enthuse about, and I’d agree with TLR, having previously owned a hummer, and also having owned a few ali hardtails in the past.

So, using language that will hopefully be acceptable to people who find it easy to shoot down opinions and experience as marketing bullshit , here’s a review:

the ti456 is flipping great. i love it and i’m not sellng it.

Why is the top tube slightly curved on the 456? What’s the benefit?

it acts as a leaf spring. 😆

well **** me. Hora asks a dicky question, uses an inflammatorily framed title and gets 60+ replies. Hell, I’m sure he moonlights as a Daily Mail headline writer.

hora’s the 456 marketing genius.
i simply use engineering superlatives for descriptive administration 😯

Another one definately not for sale here. I like the way it rides and prefer it to my old enduro. Have to agree to them looking a bit fugly but you don’t see the bent top tube when riding them. It replaced an aging well abused steel 456 and is somehow even more forgiving of my clumsy riding style.
I think most of the marketing was done F.O.C by the reviews in the mags, that must have saved on-one a fortune.

IMO Brant’s a legend for bringing a US made Lynskey frame to the masses for a grand. If the STW masses choose to hype it up as the next big thing, then rip it apart 12 months later then so be it. I’m pretty sure I’ll still be riding mine and loving it in 5 years time when everyone’s moved on to the next big thing. I’ve still got my Seven road bike and 4 years later haven’t been tempted by all the sexy CF stuff out there…if its good, its good!!! 🙂