- Ti456- Why are people selling them? Whats ‘wrong’?
i’m not selling – why would i ?Posted 9 years ago
it’s the best riding hardtail i’ve owned.
it is taught, direct and compliant – it is really really excellent.
it made my Hummer redundant….
it can go large on Big Betty’s or it’ll go lighter on nics.
it revels on 140mm Van 15mm BT’s and @ 6′ tall i’m on an 18″ on a 70mm stem…
it’s a true trail weapon….heiheiMember
Although it may sound like marketing bollocks, the_lecht_rocks is spot on when it comes to the ti456. Having had 3 rides on mine I know exactly what he means, and the bike is an absolute riot to ride; on certain sections of singletrack, it really was hairs on the back of the neck stuff.Posted 9 years agoCountZeroMember
Sure you can manipulate ally tubing to have a degree of compliance or spring to it, but I really wouldn’t want to treat such a frame the way a 456Ti can be treated, and expect it to have an extended lifespan. There is a damn good reason why forks and shocks don’t have alloy springs to save weight, but they do have Ti ones. I love the way my steel Inbred’s ride, and, although my 567 ‘bred is significantly heavier than the Hummer that most of the bits attached to it came from, and with 160mm Nixons on that’s to be expected, but the way it rides has similar qualities, as does my 853 SS. My old Cannondale hardtail by comparison felt rather dead, and absolutely hammered my ar$e. Kleins were notorious for this, whereas Ti and steel just absorb the vibrations. Carbon, too. Sure it can be read as marketing bull, especially by people who have only ever ridden alloy bikes, but until you’ve ridden all three, and then attempted to try to describe the difference in feel, then you’ll realize how difficult that is without using the same terms.Posted 9 years agofunkynickSubscriber
cyclelife/vdubber… so does that mean that neither of you think there is any difference in the ride characteristics of different HT frames then?
If on the off chance you do think there are differences, how then would you go about describing those differences in ride without using ‘nonsensical, marketing-driven superlatives’?Posted 9 years agoChrisSMember
What made me smile was when TLR described how brilliant Brant was to have designed the bent top tube of the ti 456 to act like a leaf spring, then Brant arrived (possibly on another thread) and described how the bend was to allow maximum standover clearance without leaving much seat tube extension above the top tube (to avoid stress on the ti st).
Well it made me smile anyway.
Enthusiasm about bikes, especially ones own is great, just don’t misinterpret it as objective, scientific analysis.Posted 9 years ago
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