- Ti Road Frames
Have been looking at this and enigma for a new ‘more serious’ road bike for training rides and the weekend club rides. Its not going to be used for racing. I’m keen on Ti over CF as this will be a ‘special’ bike for my 40th and i thought Ti would be the way to go. Any views on the condor? or should i be looking at other brands. I have a budget of 3-3.5kPosted 6 years agothe germinatorSubscriber
Have been riding a litespeed sienna withPosted 6 years ago
the carbon rear end for sportives and the
pilgrimage to the alps/ pyrenees for many
years, a fab bike.
It is worth considering the likes of ebay
for the budjet you have, picked up a moots
compact from the states sh with edge forks
chris king headset for £1200 inc shipping:D
first ride today!
So may have to part with the trusty sienna.
A friend has just bought a spin titanium a
very pretty bike too also worth a look.BIGMANMember
i train on a Ti Lynskey… Not as stiff as my Colnago’s but its nice to have added comfort if sat on it for 5/6hrs… Mines been all over Europe dring the last 18 months and i have never been left wanting.
Moots make a super stiff ti race frame. Having ridden one i’d love to own one. Just need to find 4k.Posted 6 years agogripperMembermacbMember
I like plain gauge but I’m of the larger persuasion and lack of corrosion was a big part of my choice as well. It’s worth testing some bikes, not just Ti, to establish the fit and ride you want, then seeing what marries up to that.
Unlike Cynic Al I wouldn’t automatically rule out something like the Yukon. It depends on your personal sensitivity, one persons stiff and all that.
At £3.5k you could get custom plain gauge, Burls, or direct to somewhere like Triton or XCAD, with high end finishing kit. Or you can get a higher level OTP or custom and go with medium level finishing kit.
Lists, I love lists, get making some to refine your criteria and narrow down the choices.Posted 6 years agokingkongsfingerMember
I had a Litespeed Vortex (the last one with diamond tubing)
It was a bike I always wanted, the engineering and look of the bike was amazing.
It was the worst road bike I have ever had, flexed like mad at the rear, so bad it changed gears by itself. Also the EC90 forks on it had severe brake judder. Im only 77kg, hated racing on it as when I stood up to attack or what have you it changed down a cog and made a right racket and everyone knew what I was upto in the group/peleton.
Still love the look of em, but was sooooooo disappointed, cost a fortune and sold it within a year and lost a load.
Posted 6 years agosolariderSubscriber
Badly built titanium is as bad as any badly built material. There is nothing inherently wrong or flexible with ti. I own 8 ti bikes, and they range from soft and comfortable to shake-you-teeth-out stiff. And they are all from Seven.
Find a builder that knows what they are doing with the material, ask them for what you want and prepare for a fabulous treat!
If the budget is for frame only, the world is your oyster. For a full build, try Enigma for that price. Handmade in the UK, and you’l be able to influence the build and stiffness.Posted 6 years agocaptaindangerSubscriber
I have the gran fondo which is the sportive version, so it has a longer head tube and mudgurad mounts. I bought mine for £1500 and then the prices went up a couple of years ago. I was very unimpressed with the service considering the price of the frame. The bike’s nice but it should be for that price. It’s a bit flexible but I believe that’s common with ti. I wouldn’t buy from there again tbh.
Try a custom builder like Justin Burls (I don’t have experience but have spoken to him and the bikes look really good, they’re surprisingly reasonably priced too.Posted 6 years agoturneroundMember
i bought a 2005 litespeed vortex which had the ‘normal’ external headset as a custom option. its the nicest bike i’m had as of yet. I’m 72kgs and dont have any flex issues with the frame even when out of the saddle putting the hammer down. With that cash i’d got for a custom BAUM.. dream frame, you may even be able to get a cheapo ticket to AUZ to get measured up in the shop 🙂Posted 6 years agoTiRedMember
I have a Merlin Cyrene for long day rides and sportives. It’s comfortable stiff, exclusive and now discontinued 🙁 . I don’t race, so the geometry and handling were just what I was looking for. Parallel top tube too.
If I was looking again, I’d go UK custom (Enigma), and I’d also be looking at a 953 stainless steel frame from Paulus QuirosPosted 6 years ago
Got a few weeks back. Really liking it and finding it an ideal training bike. Robust but lighter than steel. Though the biggest suprise was quite how stiff it is. Not ridden it less than 65 mile in one go, and so far the Ti is living up to it’s hype.Posted 6 years ago
Bought the frame secondhand, Ebay’d the crap SRAM red compact and got rid of the abundance of frame decals the Americans so love to slap on.pjm84Member
I have a custom Burls based on my now defunked Colnago EPS with a slightly longer top tube length.
The frame is fantastic, super stiff and comfortable. I can’t explain why or how. It much stiffer than the EPS ever was and not much heavier.
If I had the funds I would be speaking to Justin tomorrow about a 29ER hardtail.Posted 6 years agojamesoSubscriber
I’ve had a couple of custom ti road frames and very nice they were too. Now I have a 953 road bike and (I know it’s not all about materials its what you do with them etc) somehow it has a different feel that I prefer. I sold the ti frames once I’d ridden the 953 enough to get used to it and decide between them. It’s light enough, it’s as comfy as ti but the spring / flex somehow feels different. It feels as stiff as the PG OS ti frame but comfier, like a faster rebound setting on the springiness. Less soft and more pingy? That’s a bit vauge, yes, frames vary so much when you look at the subtleties of the ride feel, but basically 953 is a viable alternative to Ti.
If you don’t see the right option in ti, have a look at a Brian Rourke custom 953. For £1500 ish for a frame I know what I’d spend my money on.Posted 6 years ago
If you don’t see the right option in ti, have a look at a Brian Rourke custom 953. For £1500 ish for a frame I know what I’d spend my money on.
Though my Ti frame just cost £450 with Reynolds Ouzo Pro fork, CK headset and SRAM red chainset. It;s about 10 years old, but feels great.Posted 6 years agotrail_ratMember
swear id already posted this BUT
mrs tr has a mark reilly built omega easton scandium road frame bought off here.
it is a frame building work of art – and ive fondled alot of bike porn in my time as mechanic !
id have no hessitation in buying an enigma , it aint no Indy Fab but the only indy fab that remotely interests me is their steel roadies – and like above id much rather a rourke 953Posted 6 years agoIvanDobskiMember
Being mid-way into buying an Enigma (they’ve got my money and I’ve heard next to nowt since xmas) I’d have every hesitation in dealing with them again. In fact I’d like nothing more than to get my money back and spend it with a company which appears to give a ****.Posted 6 years agotrail_ratMember
“spend it with a company which appears to give a ****. “
ALOT of custom companys give the silent treatment once they have your cash – i know of a few folk used some high profile Us builders and had major waits but it all came good in the end !
good things come to those who wait !
* – never dealt with enigma mines was used !Posted 6 years ago
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