Ti frame – do I have a problem??

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  • Premier Icon scotroutes
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    I don’t think chainsuck would cause that discolouration.

    Premier Icon Daffy
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    Unless you’re desperately attached to it, I’d ship it back. It would bother me every time I rode it.

    Dickyboy
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    dunno if that would be a problem long term or not, but given the fragility of some ti frames it isn’t something I would accept if it wasn’t flagged up before the sale

    compositepro
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    are those repair welds blue

    Premier Icon househusband
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    That’s been repaired/welded/filled.

    loddrik
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    Just noticed a very fine crack in the middle of the repair. Gutted…!!

    robhughes
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    Would not be happy with that.
    If you used normal paypal flag up a dispute if they wont play ball.
    Item not as described.

    Premier Icon breadcrumb
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    It’s definitely had a TIG waved over it. Depends if it was properly purged during welding.

    Seller should of mentioned, I’d either send back or expect a partial refund.

    stoney
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    I agree, Send it back!

    robhughes
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    Don’t some people really do your brain in.Just so many dishonest conning b******s out there.You need eyes in the back of your head.
    I do feel for you.Your hard earned scammed off you by some tosser..

    andyl
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    get rid of it.

    Premier Icon househusband
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    …is that a Soda perchance?

    Junkyard
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    Clealry welded clearly the owner must have known this

    Willl it last – Dunno

    Should the price have reflected this Oh yes

    Haggle or send it back IMHO

    Premier Icon scotroutes
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    Not in the pre-sale photos either I guess??

    Premier Icon Clink
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    Hummer? 456?

    I thought any sort of blueing on titanium, no matter how slight, was evidence of oxidation, which significantly weakens the metal.

    I may be wrong though, so I’d check my facts before I got in to an argument over it.

    One thing that I’m absolutely sure of though, is that a crack through a weld really does significantly weaken the metal.

    Premier Icon 2unfit2ride
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    Looks like the repair was done by Vernon Barker, no one else could do a repair that badly 😯

    compositepro
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    welding ti any light straw/ yellow might be salvageable just

    the blue indicates completely ****

    Premier Icon convert
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    That’s a 456 isn’t it? A bit of a shocker that – tbh there is plenty of evidence of chain suck there too but I doubt that was the reason to have to put the weld down. A bit of a mess all around and without mentioning the repair beforehand that’s a no brainer return especially with the crack in the weld too.

    What did it look like in the photos you saw before buying?

    loddrik
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    Don’t want to say what frame it is as I don’t want to shame the seller, yes I want a refund but if its handled properly then that’s fair enough, its not ideal but mistakes are sometimes made.

    As for photos, no real close ups, some general pics and a description, which has always served me well enough in the past but I guess you live and learn….

    loddrik
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    Though what does irk me was that I passed up the recent bargain Lynskey 456, which I had first shout at, for this.

    loddrik
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    Bought a titanium frame from the classifieds and when it arrived I noticed it had some marking/signs of possible repair on the drive side chain stay. It wasn’t flagged up before I bought it. I asked the seller about it and he said it was due to chainsuck and he bought it like that. Is this going to cause me a problem? I’m a little peeved but don’t really want to return it unless it is likely to cause me issues. Opinions welcomed…



    welding ti any light straw/ yellow might be salvageable just

    the blue indicates completely ****

    +1

    blue=oxygen embrittlement= knackered.

    Premier Icon Andy
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    Ouch – If I bought a frame like that and I wasn’t told about it before the sale it would go straight back

    loddrik
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    Just out of interest is it repairable? As in ‘properly’ repairable?

    Premier Icon CheesybeanZ
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    Yes it’s repairable , Enigma could put a pair of stays on .

    loddrik
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    That’s sounds like it’d be more expensive than the frame is worth…

    ocrider
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    Maybe the seller could make a donation to restore it to it’s advertised condition?

    Premier Icon Andy
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    BTW if that’s an early Hummer they were notorious for suffering chain suck damage due to low chainstay / chain ring clearance

    Premier Icon CheesybeanZ
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    Around £300-£350 I think .They’ve done repair work for me and their welding is brilliant .

    hora
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    Refund. Fraudulent not telling you this.

    loddrik
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    Yep, I agree, not worth me even considering a repair methinks.

    hora
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    Even if you paid PP gift, if it was misrepresented (a repaired bike frame isn’t a normal sale) you should ask for your money back. Only yesterday I had to nudge a seller who omitted the dent in a frame in his description…

    loddrik
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    I paid with normal PayPal so should have no prob getting a refund regardless. Have opened a case.

    I now definitely see the value of not using ‘gift’ though.

    Premier Icon easygirl
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    Have you asked seller for a refund?

    loddrik
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    Yes, not going to raise a dispute unless that doesn’t go as planned.

    tinsy
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    loddrik, I have just PM you.

    loddrik
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    b r
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    its not ideal but mistakes are sometimes made.

    Mistakes, yes. But that is fraud IMO.

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