I’m not disputing the 5x research. But this has been talked about on telly recently.

Your kid is not 5x more likely to die in a car accident. Your kid is 5x more likely to die IF you have a car accident. So chance of death generally within the first 4 years of life is only very slightly increased.

We weighed it up and made a decision based on the happiness and desires of our particular kids and the risk. As I’m sure you all do 🙂

Fair dos. I sometimes don’t wear a helmet. And my dog doesn’t even own one!

@ eyerideit

Well, tbf to Maxi-Cosi, they did reply to my question on Fb:

Due to the function and performance of the iSize unit 2wayPearl vs standard forward facing Pearl it was not possible to use the same base. Changes were required to the base to make ERF suitable and to make it meet iSize standard. If we could have used the same base to help keep costs down we would have done, but it was not something we were able to do.

As with all companies and all products we are continually developing new ideas and moving forward with technology and safety standards and new advancements do occur. This does not mean the seat you have is any less safe than it was when you first made the purchase, it simply means that there have been natural developments and there is now an even safer option available to you should you wish to use it.

The Maxi Cosi FamilyFix base used in combination with the Maxi Cosi Pearl remains one of the safest solutions on the market and will continue to be sold for years to come. Parents who have brought the Pebble infant carrier and FamilyFix base can be confident that the Pearl will be available when their child needs it. The new 2wayFix base and 2wayPearl has been developed to meet the newly-launched iSize regulations and will be sold alongside the current Pearl, providing parents with a choice of options.

5 x safer is utterly meaningless aside from the variability of source if we are talking of a change of 80 in 100 to 20 in a 100 i will put up with the other risks of rear facing infavour of the physical safty if we are talking of a change from .002 in 100 to .01 in a 100 then lack of frustration for child and passenger and improved interaction with the child mean i will have crankbrat face foreward . crashes are rare events crashes with a restrained child where the child is harmed are rarer crashes with a restrained child where the diffence between forward and rearward seats makes a significant difference to outcome even rarer that .

Thanks DD. Looks like our familyfix’s will be appearing in the classifieds soon!

Crankboy, it s true what you say but convincing Mrs Eye is a different kettle of fish, to her it doesn’t matter how small the percentages are, it’s safer so it’s better.

That’s the end of it.

FWIW, (I’ve skim read through the posts)

WE have a Maxi-Cosy seat – can’t find a link to the exact one). It’s not ISO Fix (but neither’s the car).

Our son screamed and screamed from the second he was in his rear facing car seat until he was lifted out. He also seemed to get travel sick.

When he was about 1 year old, we put him in the forward facing seat and he loves it. He can see out of the window , chatting away and enjoys the car. Ours can be fixed forwards or backwards. Surely there are ISO Fix seats that can too.

Oh, and the chance of a child (under 16) dying in the UK as the occupant of a car is 0.00000035. Five times more likely in a forward facing seat is 0.00000175.

Oh come now. You can’t post stats like that ^^^ without a source.

*IF* I ever have a head on accident and I sincerely hope I won’t, it will almost certainly be the fault of the other driver, who’s had a heart attack on a 60mph stretch of road / crossed the motorway upside down due to buying remoulds / pushed his luck on a ‘B’ road. Why? Because I’m a tight auld Scotsman who drives as if he was on an invisible bike but still holds his head up in a confident manner.

It’s not inevitable but *IF* it happens, my wee boy will be five **** times more likely to live. In a head on crash.

Those ^^^ numbers are a nonsense. Either it’ll happen, or it won’t. That’s 50 / 50. My child is in a rear facing seat, like it or no.

User removed interesting to learn I have a 50/50 chance of being killed in a meteor strike today. On those odds I think I will stay in bed.

Thanks DD. Looks like our familyfix’s will be appearing in the classifieds soon!

Really? Tbh, I’ve done a bit of reading up since this thread appeared and decided that the probabilities have so many zeros after the decimal place as to be meaningless in the real world. So, I’m sticking to the option with which we were perfectly happy a little more than a year ago. I’m still not convinced that Maxi-Cosi couldn’t have designed a rearward facing seat for the existing base – but they’re saying they couldn’t and I have to take their word for it.

Existing i-Size stuff seems to be saying that rearward facing is better up to 15 months. Our wee fella is 13 months and is a small baby anyway so I reckon we’ll get another month-ish out of the Pebble. In which case, his neck should be strong enough to go into the forward facing Pearl when the time comes.

Friends of ours had a flipping enormous baby who had to go into a bigger seat somewhere between 8 and 9 months 😯 – so I’m glad I’m not in their position – difficult choice.

5 times safer

Where has this statistic come from anyway? (serious question) Generally, statistics like that whiff a bit of “Tell mummy and daddy their baby will be five times safer and they’ll spend anything to get themselves a new system.”

Why? Because I’m a tight auld Scotsman who drives as if he was on an invisible bike but still holds his head up in a confident manner.

Tbh, sounds like it’s more likely someone will drive up your arse. 🙂

User removed interesting to learn I have a 50/50 chance of being killed in a meteor strike today. On those odds I think I will stay in bed.

Ahh, but there is also a 50/50 chance you’ll win the lottery today so it might be worth the risk

User removed interesting to learn I have a 50/50 chance of being killed in a meteor strike today. On those odds I think I will stay in bed.

If you stay in bed, there’s a 50/50 chance you’ll be abducted by aliens who happen to be morbidly interested in the human lower digestive tract.

Decisions, decisions.

The problem is if they drive up his arsenic the child is 5x more likely to be injured the good thing is that the chances of that accident are slim the chances of that accident with sufficient speed are slimmer the chances of that accident with sufficient speed causing an injury to his child are really really slim.

You can get the most dramatic risk changes on the margins. My school had a 300% increase in cannabis miss use. Clearly something drastic needed to be done. It had 500 pupils in year one Joe was found behind the bike sheds smoking a spliff in year 2 Joe and his three mates were found sharing a spliff. Not such a dramatic problem after all.

Crankboy, it s true what you say but convincing Mrs Eye is a different kettle of fish, to her it doesn’t matter how small the percentages are, it’s safer so it’s better.

She should stay at home (you know, the place full of gas pipes, electricity and choking hazards).

My school had a 300% increase in cannabis miss use. Clearly something drastic needed to be done. It had 500 pupils in year one Joe was found behind the bike sheds smoking a spliff in year 2 Joe and his three mates were found sharing a spliff. Not such a dramatic problem after all.

Result! You quite possibly had a per-capita reduction in consumption through the sharing of spliffs! More headline grabbing stats to testify to the effectiveness of your school’s anti-drugs programme. 😉

to her it doesn’t matter how small the percentages are, it’s safer so it’s better.

Simply wear your helmet and any body armour you have to bed. When she asks why point out that you are now safer so therefore it is better. 😀

Seriously though – it’s up to everyone to do what they think is best for their kids. At the end of the day I didn’t think the increased risk was significant enough to justify the discomfort/inconvenience etc. Other will call it the other way. That’s fine too.

Simply wear your helmet and any body armour you have to bed. When she asks why point out that you are now safer so therefore it is better.

I do! only when it’s Business Time.

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Better safe than sorry eh?

If you really wanted to slash the risk of your kid being killed in a car crash you wouldn’t drive them anywhere. It’s by far the most effective solution.

It’s by far the most effective solution.

Except you are more likely to be killed as a pedestrian!

Then don’t walk anywhere either.