- This saddle? It's 650b specific, of course
Um, the problem is (and he’s essentially admitted this) that 650B wheels are too big for the size frame/rider they’ve designed the bike for!
And you wonder why we ‘put up with’ 26 for 30 years… cos it worked!
I predict the imminent death of 650B when it becomes clear you can’t actually design a mountain bike that works with those size wheels. Blithering idiots 😯Posted 4 years agobrooessMember
Pivot founder Chris Cocalis: “It quickly became apparent that we weren’t going to be able to use the geometry we wanted to use with a conventional saddle on our upcoming 27.5? carbon downhill bike. We wanted to maintain the same travel, chainstay length and rider positioning as on our current 26? Phoenix DH bike and this presented an overall clearance challenge with current seat and rail profiles. Something had to give,
brooess, that’s just as ridiculous a statement as a wheel size specific saddle!
He does basically admit the bike design won’t work unless they change the saddle…Posted 4 years agostimMember
It’s not that the bike design won’t work, it’s that you wouldn’t be able to quite achieve the same saddle position as you could on an equivalent 26 bike. Saddle position is very important to many downhillers, especially high level ones so if you can achieve an extra 10mm lower saddle or 10mm further back, then why not have a saddle with extra clearance built in? The saddle is not 650B specific (although the Bike Rumor chaps obviously know how to push certain people’s buttons 🙂 ), it would still be useful on a 26inch DH bike for certain size people and frame sizes.Posted 4 years agoD0NKSubscriber
We wanted to maintain the same travel, chainstay length and rider positioning as on our current 26? Phoenix DH bike
does that read to everyone else as “we wanted to shoehorn the new cool wheel size into a bunch of frames we’d already made so we’re having to bodge the saddle.” ?
Brooes I think they could design a 650b frame it’s just these guys can’t be arsed
Damascus you mean you’ve been using a 26er saddle? ****ing amateur, 29er saddles been around yonksPosted 4 years agoD0NKSubscriber
It’s not marketing, it’s a bodge. Well it is marketing I guess but it’s a “the frame is not designed for 650b wheels so we did this bodge, specific saddle” which isn’t quite snappy enough so they just went with 650b specific. Still turd polishing and worthy of plenty of scorn just make sure you call them out for the crap design fix it is, rather than branding choices.
I’m sure that if khs can build a 29er DH bike with a standard saddle other companies can manage it with the much smaller wheel size – if they could be bothered.Posted 4 years ago
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