The future has 7 gears
Would the DH X-whatever have any reducing effects on chaingrowth? My frame has a lot of it at the start of travel, pedalling across the furrows on the RH track at Revolution gets me everytime. Just a thought.
I see Mr Jones on Dirt is bestowing the cash saving nature of the new 7/10spd DH devices, but I’ve no idea what hes on about, for a change.Posted 4 years agoSpeederSubscriber
As people have pointed out there’s no cash to be saved here it’s all top end stuff and the amateurs will still be bodging things to work as they always have . Until this is available without the 11 speed width and a specific dishless hub is made it’s a half way house. Kind of frustrating that they’ve gone to all this trouble to make a something that does only 50% of the job people wanted it to do.
Don’t quite get why they didn’t make the hub as well – it’s not as if anyone that can afford the prices these will retail at is going to baulk at shelling out for a new rear wheel. I suspect they’d have welcomed the opportunity for a new bit of bling.
Applaud them for doing it but I think they only got part of the memo.Posted 4 years ago
The X0 doesn’t affect dishing either way, as it’s still the same freehub width
So you’re absolutely sure no-ones bringing out 7 speed freehubs with less dishing?Posted 4 years ago
thisisnotaspoon – Member
So you’re absolutely sure no-ones bringing out 7 speed freehubs with less dishing?
Not what I said. I said that the XO DH Freehub/cassette combination didn’t affect dishing.
The entirely different hub, freehub and cassette in your link might.Posted 4 years ago
That just seems bizarre “ooh look our new cassette is way too narrow, lets build an intricately machined massive spacer behind it” I don’t know much about xd, but doesn’t it all hang off the big sprocket? In which case couldn’t they have not put the spacer there and asked someone to knock up a dish less hub with a mini xd body and bolt it onto that? Maybe include a removeable dropout side spacer for those with standard xd?Posted 4 years agoSinglespeed_ShepMember
Makes sense to me 😐
Dhers don’t need the bigger cogs on the cassette, especially when the market is going towards dinner plates.
Sram rather than make a select few for pro riders make enough to cover the costs of product and some profit.
Kind of frustrating that they’ve gone to all this trouble to make a something that does only 50% of the job people wanted it to do.
Dh bikes go down, the other 50% of the cassette in theory is for up. They have uplifts for that 🙂Posted 4 years agonicko74Member
Will my XT thumbies work with them?
Don’t think you get it. The point is to reinvent a technology that’s been around for 20 years, in such a way that you can claim it as new IP and charge an effing fortune because every single piece has to be bought new from a custom range.Posted 4 years agoNorthwindSubscriber
D0NK – Member
yes but they’ve freed up a load of space which could be used to reduce dish to get a stronger wheel but done bugger all with it, that is the “50%” argument – I think.
Least surprising thing ever, it’s just like all those 150mm hubs with narrow flanges, that ended up being effectively the same as a 135mm hub with a bunch of spacers. They ended up selling the perception of strength without ever bothering to add it.Posted 4 years ago
They ended up selling the perception of strength without ever bothering to add it.
[quote]The point is to reinvent a technology that’s been around for 20 years, in such a way that you can claim it as new IP and charge an effing fortune because every single piece has to be bought new from a custom range.[/quote]doh! I’ve still not got the hang of this consumerism thing have I? Dur!Posted 4 years agobigblackshedSubscriber
doof_doof – Member
Hope SS hub + 7 (or even 8 ) 10sp cogs + clutch mech + shifter + T/T ring = similar thing with a dishless rear wheel.
Take a look at my photos one page 1. I managed to get 6 on the free hub. It might be possible to get 7 on there with a thinner spoke side spacer and half engagement of the dropout side sprocket.Posted 4 years agobigblackshedSubscriber
It was to take some pressure off my shot knees and to extend the climbing ability of my SS. I don’t need to go any faster downhill. I have enough gravity and lack of talent to help me in that regard. I could put a wider range of spread, but I like closer range cassettes.
I put a standard cassette spacer on the spoke side of the free hub because the mech looked VERY close to the spokes. A slight nudge and it would be bye bye mech and wheel. The amount of engagement that would have been on the dropout side again was dubious if I’d put the 7th on.
I’m a bit belt and braces TBH. Although I would like to see how others have managed to get 8×10 speed ones on there without any compromises.Posted 4 years agop8ddyMember
I’d a 24inch, 7 speed dishless setup on my old Spesh Big hit DH, and a converted 26 inch dishless setup for the same bike (from Goldtech I think)…
Does that mean I was ahead of my time? Or does it simply mean another new standard to herald a fresh splurge of spending on new frames/wheels/shifters/blah.
It’s getting preposterous now – the constant reinvention and reintroduction is tiresome, expensive and pretty much pointless. The entry point to ‘real’ mountain biking is getting daft too.
I’ve snapped more frames than wheels in my time. 36 spoked, well built wheels are tough as old boots and not insanely heavy either.Posted 4 years ago
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