Am I the only person who quite likes them?

No, I do as well. Chameleon should never have been carbon IMO. Lack of frame only kills it as an option for me though. Shame as the dropout adaptability is great.

Am I the only person who quite likes them?

No, I do as well. Chameleon should never have been carbon IMO. Lack of frame only kills it as an option for me though. Shame as the dropout adaptability is great.

frame only option IS available from Stif …. i also like them and don’t get the SC hate. Yes its bit £££ steep for an alu HT but its not that overpriced and all the bikes mentioned are likely to shoot up in cost soon enough….
similar options i’d consider to be comparable are the pace rc529 and pipedream moxie/sirius options both steel but a bit more rad in the geo dept but £150 cheaper so just need to fight an internal battle to go for an alu HT over the usual steel HT preference.
I’ve had a 2000 SC heckler(well still have) so have a soft spot for SC, its a nice looking bike and the dropout flexibility means numerous set up options to try

Apologies if I sounded a bit chippy

No worries at all dude. Probably says more about me than you but the old SC tropes get a bit wearing and everyone putting up examples of frames that really don’t do the same thing but are valid comparisons because they’re broadly the same shape… 🙄🤣

Well it has certainly got enough of us talking about it, so job sort of done by SC marketing.

The comments about them being the goto brand for all the gear no idea rich bods is interesting. I’m not saying it is incorrect but it made me think a bit as the only bike that has every attracted nice comments from teens and young adults is the Chameleon.

Nearly every local ride somebody says ‘Nice bike Mister’, or occasionally ‘Give me that bike’ if there are a group of yoofs trying to impress one another, so from this I deduce that they are either designed and built to appeal visually rather than have good components etc or every teen knows how much a SC costs over every thing else. Probably a bit of both in reality.

Maybe it is this design aspect that also attracts the older generations as well, not just the SC badge.

As an aside, I also have an On One Whippet, which rides very well, is lighter than the Chameleon and about half the price as frame only. The paint and finish isn’t a patch on the chameleon and there is one less mouth to feed in the supply chain, so I can see where the extra cost is, accepting that there is a degree of SC tax in there as well.

Ultimately, you pays your money as the saying goes. Main thing is that we are riding bikes and getting enjoyment out of it. Doesn’t really matter what each and every person rides, and it shouldn’t be put down no matter what it is.

them being the goto brand for all the gear no idea rich bods is interesting

A few years ago, but times have changed.

Now it’s blingy ebikes.

Am I the only person who quite likes them?

No, I do as well.

I do as well. We need brands like SC to make really expensive bikes so that we can pretend that our expensive bikes are cheap in comparison.

@del Yeah – we’re all bickering over three metal triangles. 😀

Choice is good, each to their own.

The riding gods on here reckon we should all be riding the same bikes as them, and anything over 2 grand is ridiculous, despite them having 5 bikes in that price bracket.