The beginning of the long slide down for Cameron?
As for chemical weapons, we are not so innocent, during the second world war, uk was mass producing chemical weapons at Runcorn and delivering them for safe keping to Rhydymyn near Mold, the most secret place during the war,as the germans never discovered it, lots of deep tunnels and a secret tunnel to the coast.Posted 4 years agoEl-bentMember
today’s blog in The Telegraph sums it up pretty well from my perspective
What, you like the bloke who wrote that article is a bit a of drama queen?Posted 4 years ago
Hague and Cameron are both trying to do the right thing but by doing that they are following (the will of the people) instead of leading us to do the right thing.Posted 4 years ago
Milliband how the hell is he a leader? Hes a joke and the wrong Milliband was voted in completely. Foolish decision, would sooner follow a true leader to war and take mankind forward than listen to the reationary rubbish that man comes out with.
Leader……. Milliband? Come on!kimbersSubscriber
scotroutes – Member
Did you actually watch/listen to the debate last night? Miliband isn’t opposing war, he just wants a higher level of “proof”.
ok fair point but ill take a higher level of proof of guilt over camerons motion to vote yes to unilateral action, the details of which we’ll discuss later, wtf would anyone vote for that?Posted 4 years agobinnersSubscriber
As Ernie has already pointed out: there wasn’t a peep out of them when the israeli’s were dropping white phosphorous on Palestinian children, but now appear to be horrified by chemical weapons in Syria.
Forget the comparisons with Iraq. Getting involved in a civil war? An alliance with France? Against an enemy being supported by Russia and China? More Vietnam, than iraq. About the only (of many) American military follies we sensibly stated well out of! We’ll be equally as glad we stayed out of this one. The French will soon disappear. Just like they did before.Posted 4 years ago
Someone certainly needs to leads you to enlightenment I will give you that
We had chemical weapons in WW2. So what. The key point is we didn’t deploy them
Why do you think we had them – was it just that during the war we thought hey lets waste loads of resources on making something we have no intention whatsoever of ever using and then secretly store it.Posted 4 years ago
Clearly it was made because it would have been used – presumably if we were invaded or as a last cause or some such.wobbliscottMember
A time of war is no time to start trusting your enemy – you have to cover all bases to protect your own skin. Its kill or be killed time. Of course if Hitler was successful in landing troops on the ground in England and we had become entranced in a WW1 style trench warfare and Hitler started chucking chemical weapons around, then we were prepared to retaliate – but it is worth noting that during the whole of WW2 both sides did not resort to using chemical weapons in open combat – though unfortunately they gassed the Jews in the camps. There is a gulf of difference between covering your options and bases, and actually using the things.
Assad clearly is a great leader just as Hitler was. He’s managed to stay in charge through this whole crisis so far, so people are prepared to follow him, just as a whole nation followed Hitler into a World War, i’m sure against their better personal judgements. They were great leaders, though their aims and objectives are clearly wrong and abhorrent.Posted 4 years ago
Are we really comparing assad with Churchill???
bloodynora seems to be
Should I get some for my house? Just in case?
Best find out whether bloody nora likes you or not so I can decide if it is good or bad.
Of course if Hitler was successful in landing troops on the ground in England
I assume you mean Britain when you say England there?Posted 4 years ago
bloodynora – Member
Just exposing the hatred junkyard and ernie have for their own country
Well nora you didn’t mention either me or Junkyard. You only mentioned Churchill.
And you mentioned Churchill only to point out that you expect “great leaders” to have chemical weapons at their disposal ready to use if threatened.
Only someone with your level of logic would think that it was a good idea to make that point on a thread which is discussing how to deal with President Assad alleged use of chemical weapons.
So I guess it’s well in keeping with your irrational logic to claim that what you were in fact really saying was that me and Junkyard hate our country.Posted 4 years agoathgrayMember
Is it me or is the BBC being particularly hawkish on Syria? More graphic images, emotive tone and language than I can remember for a long time, although granted video phones allow access to more raw footage. Feels like there are a few over eager editors with agendas. Watching Newsnight, there was a slow zooming shot into the face of a clearly distressed aid worker just back from the scene of the presumed napalm attack.Posted 4 years ago
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