- That trail at Innerliethen
Yep alas I know that, but i’m excited, I have no intention of giving away the location or the name, this trail is south of the river.
Besides I have been biting my tongue for a week, I didn’t know that trails of such an angle even existed. It has been ridden a lot, looking at the erosion.Posted 4 years ago
You know the one, that seems to be almost plumb vertical, slight exageration, but incredibly steep and quite conditions dependant, I stumbled upon it on it on a wet day and gave it a wide birth, boy would I like to clean that thing, have you ridden it?
Would be interesting to know the history behind it and it’s rather illuminating name.Posted 4 years ago
Heh, I remember that! I only get to pass people when they’re standing still.
fergal – Member
I’m probably going to be sent to Coventry for this, but if you had ridden PS you would know.
Reason I ask is there’s a strava segment for the classic that describes it as “vertical section” so it could also be that. I thought PS was closed for forestry?Posted 4 years ago
@ Fergal- Ach, who really knows what the rules are 🙂 I always figure if it’s a race trail, like mince baby mince and the likes, then they’re more offpiste than secret- FC approved, etc. But some of the other stuff is more secret. I’d sooner err on the side of caution myself, not my trails so not my place.Posted 4 years ago
Oh, PS, names. Clues are often on the map- PS is fairly obvious when you remember the lead mine. IS confuses people because it’s not named for the burn, it’s named for the cleugh. (or, possibly, someone got their burns mixed up)
<not naming names for the same reason as above, btw, maybe I’m being an arse, who knows… but armed with names you can find trails in seconds these days>
The naming of trails is a difficult matter,Posted 4 years ago
it isn’t just one of your holiday games…
All this cloak and dagger stuff is a little tedious, the trail in question is ridden a lot, has appeared in video’s, it’s hardly a secret if you want to look a little harder, I was just seeking others experiences of this trail, good or bad, because I know for me to ride this trail well, I would have to be at the top of my game.
I come from a climbing background, where sharing and discussing first ascents/routes is the norm, in a few years this trail will be clear fell, just like IS and forgotten.Posted 4 years ago
as for this one’s rideability…i only tried it once, and it was wet, back when i still rode clipless pedals. it was the trail that made me wanna get flats, so i could dab/mx drift if the need arose.
irony is, i ride more north of the tweed now, and ain’t been back since.
i really should, eh?Posted 4 years ago
heavyman – Member
Been there its a grand run, was watching my nephew in a race that day- must have been about 6or 7 years ago.
I assume you don’t mean the race was on the run in question? It’s never been used off any events, not even slightly practical to marshal of extract injured folk fromPosted 4 years agob rMember
I’m slowly working my way through the inners off piste stuff.
Can I also recommend you try the on-piste stuff, but in the dark, and going the wrong way. Last night off Minch was fun, although foggy so had to run lights low – and then the new clear fell was well fast.
We also did some off-piste too, and running well and pretty dry.Posted 4 years agodrookitmunterMember
This? It’s never been raced.
It’s hardly secret or covert.. go talk to the gentlemen in iCycles and they’ll point you in the direction of fun stuff.
Surely everything at Inners is South of the river, otherwise you’re at Golfy or Thornilee?
“The Nightmare” AKA “Burts Trail” is probably the most difficult thing to ride fast at Inners. It was raced in the Alpinebikesinnerleithenwinterdurobicyclemountainrace last year and it’s never really recovered. It runs down the hill to the right of the fun bit of Make or Brake. It used to leave the first berm on MoB, but that’s blocked now. The current line drops down, slightly up the fireroad towards the uplift dropoff.
“Casey Stoner” AKA “Not For *****” is probably the next hardest off-piste thing as the “jumps” are all made of slippy wood. Really fun trail. It’s the thing that plummets to the right just after the uplift dropoff. Exits on the fire-road that leads to the top of Caddon Bank.Posted 4 years ago
The last FC news I heard is that if a trail is an “established trail” it’ll be left alone. So, if a trail is on Strava it already exists and is therefore ‘established’……. which, strangely, means that it’s kinda good that people know how to get to them
Although, I can see the situation of with someone getting way out of their depth on one of these trails and causing the Emergency Services a nightmare. That could well changes things up a bitPosted 4 years ago
legend – Member
The last FC news I heard is that if a trail is an “established trail” it’ll be left alone. So, if a trail is on Strava it already exists and is therefore ‘established’…….
Not quite, that definition would mean that every trail would be “established”. Established is just taken to mean “has been around for a while”, the rule of thumb Andy was using at first was “did it exist before we started talking about established trails” though I’m sure that’s moved on since. It’s not definitive though, new trails and lines are just judged basically on merit and most diggers know where the lines are.
Buuuut, if an existing trail became a real problem- ie, suddenly the entire of STW decides to go and ride PS tomorrow night and half of them leave in an ambulance- then things change. It’s all surprisingly sensible tbh!
bigjim – Member
That is a touch steep. Do many people wear full faces on the Alpinebikesinnerleithenwinterdurobicyclemountainrace and day/night races?
The races tend not to use the madder trails. Though frankly still mad enough sometimes 😉 Some people do wear fullface, it’s entirely up to you. I don’t but then, I’m not that fast.
I can’t remember if they’re afflicted with a “helmets all the time” rule or not, wearing a fullface is a pain if you’re not allowed to climb without a helmet on. The one time i did use one for an innerleithen mtb racing event I just climbed sans hat, no bother but that was years ago.Posted 4 years ago
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