That AP McCoy feller
Yeah, 4000 wins is a heck of a number, but shouldn’t his horses get more of a shout? It’s been all over the media, and yeah, fair enough he’s had to do a lot of faces and live like a monk, but how much of an achievement is it? I know nothing about driving a horse, does the jockey make that much difference in a race?Posted 4 years agothepuristSubscriber
Aaargh! So how have other jockeys gone on the same horses? If he’s rubbish then anyone else on the same horse will win, if he’s good then of course he’ll get race winning horses to ride rather than ones in their way to Iceland.
Same as f1 – the best drivers get the best cars, or football where the best players end up in the best teams. The more you win, the more chances you get to win…Posted 4 years agomidlifecrashesSubscriber
Jockeys make a massive difference, though swapping one of the best half dozen for another of the best half dozen wouldn’t always change a result. None of the horses did 4000! It’s a huge achievement, one of the greatest of sportsmen of all time. Incredibly determined and brave. If he can keep it going for a good few years yet he might even get close to modern Britain’s greatest sportsperson.Posted 4 years agoBlackhoundSubscriber
I can remember when it was a big deal when Terry Biddlecombe was the first to ride 1,000 winners. What AP has done is incredible, he does get the best horses but he is a top rider. Look just how far behind him the next best are.
Tea-total and constantly dieting while having to be fit and strong enough to keep a horse in a straight line.
There was an anecdote last night that he went on a 4 day golfing holiday to Portugal. He still flew back one afternoon to ride one horse at Southwell before returning to Portugal. Dedication.Posted 4 years agofatmaxSubscriber
There are a couple of good articles on the BBC website, including an interview with his wife. Read about his injuries and then come back and say if you have the same thoughts. And none of his fellow jockeys have achieved over 3000 wins. As a sport it doesn’t do anything for me, but it sounds brutal on the body, and he’s the best my a country mile. Fair play.Posted 4 years ago
p.s. being the best by a country mile doesn’t count for anything when it’s darts / PTPT by the way. That’s just fat blokes in a pub 😀nealgloverMember
This seems to be the perfect thread for figuring out if people know anything about the subject being discussed.
Anyone who thinks he is Incredible and his achievement is too = Knows something about horse racing.
Anyone who says anything else = knows nothing at all about the subject. Basically just joining in to make a noise.
Brilliant 😉Posted 4 years agocbmotorsportMember
It’s a very skilled profession. It’s about knowing the track and your horse, some finish well but need containing in the early stages or vice versa, some run badly in a pack and like to lead from the get go, some don’t like being close to the rails, there’s so many variables. I’ve seen him win races he really shouldn’t have done, through sheer skill and determination. And that doesn’t mean beating the shit out of the horse as some say above.
His dedication to the sport is phenomenal. He rides daily and travels thousands of miles a year to fulfill his commitments, he is incredibly disciplined about fitness and diet, and he is brave as anybody. He’s broken so many bones, ridden with horific injuries that hadn’t healed and put everything on the line to get there.
He’s a legend and deserves every thing he gets.Posted 4 years agoPigfaceMember
Well from living near Lambourn for a good few years and knowing a few ex jockeys and a lot of stable lads racing is as bent as a nine bob note, holding horses back to build up the odds. Common place. Much easier to do with the all weather race tracks as the horses are of poorer quality but you have to be good to lay the bets on with out drawing to much attention.
True this was a few years ago before bookies became hi tech but wouldnt trust it at all.Posted 4 years agomikey74Member
based on what fact mikey74? I’m not arguing, just curious?
No facts, and I am happy to admit it may be down to prejudice as I find it utterly tedious. However, the fact that the industry is so heavily linked to gambling leaves me with a strong scepticism about the whole thing.Posted 4 years ago
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