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  • School holiday and Term time holiday price hiking
  • If you have to do your best for your kids keep them in school and spend time with them doing something cheaper. Simples. Or earn more. Or you could become a teacher and have a massive salary and gold plated pension, plenty if jobs out there.

    loddrik
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    Someone’s bitter.

    This teacher’s pay isn’t enough to take his family on a Eurocamp holiday to France for a fortnight.

    For £580 quid?? Yes , I am a total big licks…

    Fwiw, even an nqt prob earns two or three times what I do.

    I’ll have absolutely no regrets or remorse about my kids enjoying 10 days in France, none whatsoever.

    If you have to do your best for your kids keep them in school and spend time with them doing something cheaper. Simples. Or earn more. Or you could become a teacher and have a massive salary and gold plated pension, plenty if jobs out there.

    Again, they’ll recover, they are 4 and 8. Plus my kids see far more of their dad than most. Life’s good. I’ve forsaken my career so I’m there for my kids, maybe more dads should do the same….

    vickypea
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    Holidays abroad are not a necessity but many parts of the UK are horribly crowded during UK school holidays. Imagine how much more crowded they would be if no one had the luxury of a foreign holiday?
    We decided to have a day in York one Easter holiday but York was stuffed full of holidaying families that it was horrible.

    Premier Icon richmars
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    Surely you just go on the holiday you can afford?

    vickypea
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    I can afford foreign holidays because I live in a house the size of a postage stamp, with a communal garden, and I drive an old, small car. It’s about priorities.

    Premier Icon miketually
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    Fwiw, even an nqt prob earns two or three times what I do.

    If you’re on between £7000 and £10000 a year, you probably shouldn’t be going to France for your holiday.

    loddrik
    Member

    Why’s that? 😕

    You ‘probably’ should spend less time making pointless assumptions.

    MrSmith
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    So I’ll give them a holiday, because they deserve one

    Deserving or not they get loads of holiday, 6 weeks in the summer, Easter, Christmas and a few weeks interspersed throughout the year.

    Premier Icon miketually
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    Because if that’s your family income, shouldn’t you be spending it on food and a home?

    Whatever, this teacher’s got to get back to marking. Which is also how I spent part of my ‘holiday’.

    Plus my kids see far more of their dad than most. Life’s good.

    They enjoy listening to you whinging abut how much it costs to take them on holidays you can’t afford?

    tlr
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    Supply and demand, what a crazy notion on which to base price!

    I’m just off to convince someone to sell me a bottle of rare wine and a vintage car for the price is some plonk and a Fiesta, only fair after all…..

    Hope your mrs earns a bit more than 7-10k

    loddrik
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    I can afford it, not during school holidays though.

    loddrik
    Member

    Hope your mrs earns a bit more than 7-10k

    Why?

    Because otherwise you wouldnt be able to afford to feed those poor little mites of your let alone take them to France on holiday. Either that or you are just talking shite.

    wrightyson
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    This post is going the way I thought and ioddrik is bearing the brunt of the teachers and folks who don’t have kids. His kids are young but in my eyes neither need a holiday or will suffer by having one. We’ve took out kids out of school just once for a week in the last 7 years. That was for a big family occasion and was when the eldest was 9. Now the eldest is at “big school” it will only be the odd day here and there.
    I recently waited two weeks to be granted permission to take my daughter to a family wedding in term time, softly softly catchy monkey was my approach and it paid off with the permission being granted.
    However she’s excelling at school so far and hasn’t missed any other time off, I’m sure it helps…

    loddrik
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    Could be. Or just railing again sanctimonious fools who spout nonsense. I’ll take the girls on holiday. People carp judgemental opinions on Internet forums. But the world keeps on turning. Strange eh….

    Premier Icon miketually
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    People carp judgemental opinions on Internet forums.

    And ill-informed ones too.

    loddrik
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    Shouldn’t you be ‘marking’…?

    MrSmith
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    The world keeps on turning even if some poor people can’t afford to take their children on foreign holidays.

    Premier Icon miketually
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    Shouldn’t you be out at a second job to pay for a school holiday break?

    I believe you raised the issue as a massive whine and then went on to hine that you earn less than half an nqt’s wage (22k I think). Forgive me for not giving a **** about your non existant problems.
    Wrightyson sems very sensible, shame the rules are so inflexible imo but its not the teachers fault.

    I’m just off to convince someone to sell me a bottle of rare wine and a vintage car for the price is some plonk and a Fiesta, only fair after all…..
    Remember that’s only valid if you can produce one these..

    loddrik
    Member

    Shouldn’t you be out at a second job to pay for a school holiday break?

    I have one, full time dad. Best job in the world. Beats money, material wealth or career ambition every time. More dads should try it.

    I believe you raised the issue as a massive whine and then went on to hine that you earn less than half an nqt’s wage (22k I think). Forgive me for not giving a **** about your non existant problems.
    Wrightyson sems very sensible, shame the rules are so inflexible imo but its not the teachers fault.

    I don’t think you’ll find anywhere I was looking for sympathy.

    I have one, full time dad. Best job in the world. Beats money, material wealth or career ambition every time.

    Does it beat being able to afford a holiday without interfering with your child’s education?

    loddrik
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    Yep, because I can spend all those extra mornings, afternoons and evenings with them. And they learn more from me than they will from a miserable teacher can teach them in the ten days they’ll miss.

    I missed 3 months off school when I was 10 with hepatitis. I’m still here, I didn’t turn into someone who lost the ability to read and write in the time off. I imagine my daughters will just about cope with 10 days off. And plus, it isn’t even both kids, the younger one is in nursery.

    My oldest one is well clear of everyone in terms of academic ability in her class. I’ll take a bit of credit for that as she doesn’t get to see me for an hour a day once I’m back in from work. Something for me to be sanctimonious about.

    Gary_M
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    I don’t understand what there is to complain about. We live in a capitalist society where price is driven by demand, the more people want something then the higher the price. It’s called economics. Why should the government get involved in price fixing to suit people with kids. We have a child, holidays cost more during school holiday, that’s the way it is.

    I bet you’re a joy at parents evening!
    You could always try home learning seeing as you are so awesome.

    MrSmith
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    I missed 3 months off school when I was 10 with hepatitis. I’m still here

    I never had a family holiday while at school, I’m still here to point out the obvious narcissism and sense of entitlement.

    I missed 3 months off school when I was 10 with hepatitis. I’m still here, I didn’t turn into someone who lost the ability to read and write in the time off

    maybe not, but you do seem to be someone who doesn’t understand the most basic rules of supply and demand, which most 15 year olds can grasp.
    Still, you’re poor, you’re happy and you want the same for your kids, and poverty isn’t the hardest thing in the world to acheive, is it, so you probably think you’re a success.

    fatboyslo
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    While I have some sympathy for those who have a genuine complaint others don’t convince me.
    A mate at work struggles to take his family for a week at Butlins in school holidays and I understand his frustration
    BUT
    Contrast that with a woman on local tele tonight who took her kids out of school for a holiday in Mexico, apparently going in term time cost her around £5,000 but if she went in the school holiday it would be £7.500
    FFS …. Hasn’t she heard of European holidays … I’m sure my mate would have a dream family holiday for £5 k even in the school holidays

    loddrik
    Member

    I am awesome. No really.

    wrightyson
    Member

    Don’t know what you’re trying to achieve now ioddrik 🙄
    You’ve made your decision and that’s that.
    I too would love to spunk 5k on a holiday but I guarantee we’ll be having a blast at Easter with it just costing us the four flights. Not what you know but who 😉

    johndoh
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    Never seen a thread with so many people behaving like clowns.

    loddrik
    Member

    Good for you!

    No surprises that this tightening of the holiday regulations came in under Gove’s watch.

    Yes it’s supply and demand, but it is at an extreme scale and bloomin annoying for anyone, not just those with kids. People who need to travel during school holiday seasons (who aren’t going on a holiday) get stitched up as well with the pricing.

    I’m a parent and it annoys me. I haven’t been on a foreign holiday since 2007 as I haven’t been able to afford it. Fine. This year we want to but I absolutely refuse to do it during school holidays. It’s not just the pricing being up to 4 times higher, it’s the over crowding of nice places ruined by pikey brits. ;o)

    But seriously, I’ll be taking them out of school. At our school if we keep to only 5 days there’s no fine, so Saturday to Saturday is doable. Fine is significant… £50 per child per day. This could run into hundreds if you take a 2 week holiday.

    In terms of the actual ethics of it, I have no issue with anyone doing it. It’s up to the parents if they want to prioritize a holiday over schooling. For me, holidays with families are important and valued and cherished for years. Given that they close the schools at a drop of a hat for snow/wind/rain/”teacher taining” etc these days, and that my kids do perfectly well, I know they can afford to miss a couple of weeks especially at their age. It’s not going to affect their life one bit.

    I get why schools fine. They don’t want people to “all do it” and cause emptier schools and kids to miss stuff. But in reality, the schools were never empty before fines were introduced, and missing a week is hardly the end of the world, even when doing GSCE’s. You can catch up quite easily.

    I think everyone should be allowed to take 2 weeks out of school per year unauthorised to account for holidays/weddings/funerals etc.

    I had to write to the school to get permission to take my kids to my sisters wedding. They said it would not be allowed. Did it anyway. No fine.

    Premier Icon Trekster
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    As a kid never had a holiday.
    Could never afford to take my kids on holiday.
    My kids in turn cannot afford to take their kids on holiday.
    Daughter is a teacher, spent 3 days of half term in school/work preparing class room for next term! She got an Offsted outstanding report last year but will be burnt out very soon if she doesn’t slow down 😐 most of her wages go on nursery care for “mini-me” and buying stuff for her class 👿
    Those who slag off teachers need to go live with or befriend a teacher(primary)

    loddrik
    Member

    I half did a pgce. I know they (sometimes) work hard. But they know the workload before they become teachers. Its drilled into them enough during training. I say sometimes as not all teachers are so diligent.

    And for the people are espousing never taking term time holidays. Live and let live. Stop being so judgemental on those who do. You should feel smug knowing that not having taken 10 days out of their schooling, your children will do better in life than mine.

    Who knows, maybe those extra 10 days will give them enough of an advantage where they’ll get in to Oxford and maybe even go on to become a conservative politician.

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    Doubly right on dude, the world needs more uneducated ****s.

    Since when does a few weeks off mean you’re uneducated?

    To all those saying that foreign holidays are a frivolous luxury – were you the same ones taking the piss out of 50% of Americans for not having a passport? Or for being insular and inward looking? Do you not think that seeing the world is a tremendously positive experience?

    I know, you’ll probably come back and say that ‘oh they are just spending 2 weeks on the beach in Benidorm’, and undoubtedly some are, but some aren’t. I had amazing experiences on foreign holidays as a kid (in a caravan, we weren’t rich) and I learned a lot about history, politics, geography and a foreign language to a passable degree through the experience. If I had to take my kids away from being drilled on how to use apostrophes for the 20th time to experience this then I would seriously consider it.

    I have considered taking my 4yo out of school this summer for a week before the end of term because we don’t have a lot of spare cash and she they haven’t seen half their family for two years. My youngest doesn’t remember any of them. However it doesn’t save any cash. I will also consider taking them out for a week in November because it’s the most important family holiday on that side of the sea and quality family time is important.

    MrSmith
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    I had amazing experiences on foreign holidays as a kid (in a caravan, we weren’t rich)

    Yes you were, your parents could afford the caravan, jumping to conclusions I presume there was a drive to keep it on and a car big enough to tow it, not forgetting the cost of the ferry.
    Compared to my welder/housewife parents you were well off, we never went anywhere apart from the odd day trip to the beach 10miles away.

    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    Amazingly as my mother was a teacher and my dad was a farmer we had limited time for holidays. We seemed to take them within the holidays and went somewhere within our budget. Just saying……

    It’s not about where you go it’s about what you do with them.

    My sister in law and her ex husband used to complain about the quality of students reaching them in university then took their kids out of school. Perhaps there is some correlation.

    But if one thing life has taught me is I’d rather fight lions with a wet fish than try and talk rationally to a parent.

    tlr
    Member

    How much is child benefit these days?

    surfer
    Member

    jumping to conclusions

    Dont worry, knock yourself out.

    Perhaps there is some correlation

    Or perhaps there isnt. Dont let that deter your clear prejudice though. As Hitch would say “what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence”

    surfer
    Member

    It’s called economics. Why should the government get involved in price fixing to suit people with kids

    Nope its called politics. Governments of any hue intervene all over the place.

    (in a caravan, we weren’t rich) and I learned a lot about history, politics, geography and a foreign language to a passable degree through the experience

    I grew up in a tenement and we couldn’t afford a car, far less a caravan or anywhere to put it. I take that not everyone’s lives are the same wasn’t covered in those amazingly educational holidays you had?

    Since when does a few weeks off mean you’re uneducated?

    Since when does not going to school help your education?

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