asks you to lend £5

you could of given him a gift instead…

http://www.johnlewis.com/Gifts/For+Teachers/For+Teachers/For+Teachers/21775/ProductCategory.aspx?s_kenid=7fa759b8-b7d0-43a8-4ba2-000059f18bf2&s_kwcid=3×1985701

If I freely LEND my money to someone of my own volition through choice and they cannot pay me back I would say that I was piss poor at assessing risk.

In other news:

What a stupid comparison dmjb4, unless of course you are a bank.

Banks are in the business of lending money, ie, their business is lending money. They are in fact “experts” in the field of lending money, that’s how they justify their huge profits. I would expect an expert money lender to do their homework and not to lend money to an alcoholic smoking trade unionist. Clearly the man has no moral fibre and to lend money to him would amount to gross incompetence.

School closures during next week’s strikes mean all employers need a contingency plan[/u]
http://www.hrmagazine.co.uk/hro/features/1019639/school-closures-weeks-strikes-mean-employers-contingency-plan

My wife’s employer (NHS) are offering three options:
1) take holiday
2) unpaid leave
3) make up the hours

I’d be interesting in hearing what’s on offer to teachers who don’t wish to strike but are forced to look after their kids? or would they just go on strike and get paid?

or would they just go on strike and get paid?

?

you dont get paid on strike mainly because you are not working.

So what happens if you dont want to strike, and go into work,and theres nobody else there.Do you stil get paid

yes

you dont get paid on strike mainly because you are not working.

What about teachers who are forced to have time off to look after their kids, due to the striking teachers. Holiday; Unpaid leave; or make up the hours, I assume?

It actually works the other way, if you go on strike, you have to declare it as a strike day. If you don’t do that, the assumption is that you worked. Even with teachers. Even if some find it hard to believe that when the kids aren’t there, teachers still find something to do!

So I presume teachers are salary paid per month, anyone who’s on strike will be docked a days wage??

So I presume teachers are salary paid per month, anyone who’s on strike will be docked a days wage??

I reckon

Even if some find it hard to believe that when the kids aren’t there, teachers still find something to do!

Unless they are forced to ‘have leave?(not sure)’ and go off and look after their kids who can’t go to school due to the teacher’s strike.

School closures during next week’s strikes mean all employers need a contingency plan
http://www.hrmagazine.co.uk/hro/features/1019639/school-closures-weeks-strikes-mean-employers-contingency-plan

My wife’s employer (NHS) are offering three options:
1) take holiday
2) unpaid leave
3) make up the hours

so, the teachers have a forth option..

4) go on strike

The point is that yunki’s post earlier was a load of tosh.

Public sector workers share the same collective responsibility for the crisis as everyone else. Public sector workers also went too far in the good times, and must therefore share equally in the correction.

You can’t pretend its nothing to do with you, when you have credit cards, large mortgages and the threat of large scale redundancies in your job sector. Quite rightly, the bank expects many public sector workers will not keep to the terms and repay their loans.

What about teachers who are forced to have time off to look after their kids, due to the striking teachers. Holiday; Unpaid leave; or make up the hours, I assume?

Is this a desperate attempt to keep a tired thread alive, or are you just hopelessly determined to dig around the bottom of the barrel for all potential “problems” associated with teachers attempting to protect their pensions ?

Public sector workers also went too far in the good times, and must therefore share equally in the correction.

Despite the fact you keep repeating this it does not make it true. you did read the account of what caused it above did you not?

You can’t pretend its nothing to do with you, when you have credit cards, large mortgages and the threat of large scale redundancies in your job sector. Quite rightly, the bank expects many public sector workers will not keep to the terms and repay their loans.

PMSL
Can you link to some warnings the banks have made on this very issue you seem well read on the subject and very informed. I need to know as this sounds very dangerous just a few links will do to confirm your account.
thanks

Is this a desperate attempt to keep a tired thread alive,

Just saying!

Actually dmj that’s the wring type of housing and none if those people caused the problems. If you read my earlier post you’ll know I have a bit of background in this stuff. The housing that caused the problems was sub prime in the us mostly that wad then securitised through mortgage backed securities that were invested in by almost all banks. Sub prime went pop which caused the cash flows and waterfalls ti stop. This in turn caused inter bank lending to stop and bobs your uncle. That’s a bit simple as ut doesn’t cover the credit default swap situation but it had little to do with Jo blogs in the uk.

you could of given him a gift instead…

http://www.johnlewis.com/Gifts/For+Teachers/For+Teachers/For+Teachers/21775/ProductCategory.aspx?s_kenid=7fa759b8-b7d0-43a8-4ba2-000059f18bf2&s_kwcid=3×1985701
Tempting, but I couldn’t find any braziers or donkey jackets.

I honestly could not give a to$$ about teachers pensions. I just want to take my kids to school after all it’s a service I pay for.

we have all picked up on that you dont care for anyone but yourself but hey thanks for making it so clear.
Just think if the teachers took your not caring attitude and say went on strike during exams?
Thankfully they are not like you …you should thank them for that

Just think if the teachers took your not caring attitude and say went on strike during exams?

Why should I give a to$$ about teachers pensions? does that make me evil somehow?

akysurf – Member

I honestly could not give a to$$ about teachers pensions.

And this is why people go on strike. If you won’t care about their issue, they’ll make it yours and see if you care about that. If you want to take your kids to school and get the service you pay for, then why not get onside with the people you’re relying on?

you should thank them for that

….

….what would you suggest?…

http://www.johnlewis.com/Gifts/For+Teachers/For+Teachers/For+Teachers/21775/ProductCategory.aspx?s_kenid=7fa759b8-b7d0-43a8-4ba2-000059f18bf2&s_kwcid=3×1985701[

why not get onside with the people you’re relying on

….because nothing in this thread has provided me with a convincing reason to do that.

You know the 100 monkeys in a room with 100 typewriters theory, well it’s now in the modern times. It’s a hundred monkeys in a room with 100 laptops all sharing one STW login. The login name is DMJB4 and these monkeys are bitter as they don’t have the same conditions as the public sector as the monkey Union has gone bananas.

Why should I give a to$$ about teachers pensions? does that make me evil somehow?

YES it means you dance with the devil in the pale moon light. I can see how you reached that conclusion there with the argument I put forward …none of my points are lost on you.

bangaio – you are confusing triggers and causes. You’ve read just enough to be dangerous.

The actual size of the sub-prime sector is and was tiny, even in the US. The few specialist lenders failed quickly, and most people don’t even know the names of the institutions. These were resolved quickly.

However, these failures caused everyone to look at bigger institutions holding supposedly higher grade debt, in vastly higher quantities. The fear here – of jo blogs defaulting – closed the interbank lending market.

You know the 100 monkeys in a room with 100 typewriters theory

Pay peanuts get monkeys – is another theory

The fear here – of jo blogs defaulting – closed the interbank lending market.

is that why they called it a credit crunch 💡

akysurf – Member

….because nothing in this thread has provided me with a convincing reason to do that.

If they stop doing their jobs, it will cause you a massive pain in the arse. Therefore, they are important to you. Therefore, let’s not piss them off. You will be happier if they are at work.

Ideologically, I’m on their side, won’t try and deny it but pragmatically, it makes sense too.

don’t have the same conditions as the public sector

Wrong, I will keep hold of my final salary pension.

If they stop doing their jobs, it will cause you a massive pain in the arse. Therefore, they are important to you. Therefore, let’s not piss them off. You will be happier if they are at work.

..gun to the head.

^^ There is the problem in one.

Union movements have had their day and now amount to little more than a protection racket.

It is no longer 1832. Workers are no longer serfs tied to a farm. If you want better pay and conditions you can now freely travel to the next village and look for better terms there, or turn your hand to a different trade.

If the unions do strike it will fail. As in 1926. Yes, the “golden” general strike which resulted in the workers returning to their jobs, without a single concession. The good news is that a general strike today is likely to result in one thing: Boris Johnson and co will get their way and we’ll have proper laws to restrict the ability of unions to threaten the prosperity of the nation.

If they stop doing their jobs, it will cause you a massive pain in the arse. Therefore, they are important to you. Therefore, let’s not piss them off. You will be happier if they are at work.

Okay, here’s my compromise. Instead of striking, open the school as normal, look after the kids but just don’t ‘teach’ for a day.

akysurf – Member

..gun to the head.

That’s where the ideology comes in. You can call it that, or you can see it as them asserting their value- it’s easy to take something for granted til its gone.

The fact that they’re important enough to you that you can feel losing them, even for a day or two, is a “gun to the head” should tell you something though.

That’s where the ideology comes in.

Not so ideal if your a public worker with a critical life saving responsibility, eg. nurse.