I’ve been lusting after a raw Liteville 301 for a while, i have a perfectly good orange Five but i cant stop thinking about the 301, any reason not to get one? im also quite keen on the Helius AC.

The top suspension link looks like a handy testicle removal device it you get your position wrong over the top tube?..

Cheers

Danny B

looks like it could be an interesting bike.
Liteville 301, part 1

liteville 301 would be my first choice for 160 fork compatible frames.

+1 for not resting your old chap on the top tube

They look really nice, are there many stockists in the UK? Aren’t they cheap from Germany?

The top suspension link looks like a handy testicle removal device it you get your position wrong over the top tube?..

when i go balls out, its not literal, i had a go on one that was a size too small and my gonads never felt in the danger zone.

160 fork compatible

Thats the other bonus being able to stick 160 rockers on.

They look really nice, are there many stockists in the UK? Aren’t they cheap from Germany?

Theres a dealer just down the road, they arnt much cheaper in Germany.

They look amazing and are very light for their travel, I would like to ride one, pinkbike have a good review.

Not helping here, but do it, buy one (after trying first!)!

Saw a lad out on a 650b wheeled one last week, that was a very capable enduro bike 🙂

Merely a point of order but liteville are made in Taiwan to German specs whereas Nicolai are made in house on Germany. Otherwise they will be pretty analogous bikes. Well maybe not so. There is a lot more design in the liteville, with lovely and very ever design touches everywhere whereas the Helius will, in my view, be better made.

The only thing that put me off the Liteville was that the 301 And the 601 were just too light for their travel for me to feel confident about them.

I was thrown out of a shop for stripping naked a rubbing against a raw mk11. Utterly stunning…
But how much ‘better’ is it than my bargain basement Meta5?

No.

The only thing that put me off the Liteville was that the 301 And the 601 were just too light for their travel for me to feel confident about them.

This has crossed my mind, my main worry really.

Its still pretty close with the 301 and AC but i dont want to wait forever for the thing to be made.

I was thrown out of a shop for stripping naked a rubbing against a raw mk11. Utterly stunning…
But how much ‘better’ is it than my bargain basement Meta5?

Hora just talked me out of it, not with the Meta5 bit lol. your Meta5 has zero warranty and the Liteville 10 years?

I’d have either…I’d prefer the Nicolai for the custom options but it would probably be an extra £1000 (for me, as I’d wanted a custom seat tube and some other options).

I’d have either…I’d prefer the Nicolai for the custom options but it would probably be an extra £1000 (for me, as I’d wanted a custom seat tube and some other options).

This is it, once you add the spec i want, plus shock headset seat clamp, its a bit rich and im into carbon money.
I could see myself on a Mojo HD 140.

Godzilla…it was a HD 140 I ended up buying! 😀

I know, saw it on a friday night ride in Swaledale, looks great, is there a new one out soon?

Godzilla it has a 2yr warranty.

Do you really think you’d be riding the same frame as your main bike in 10yrs?

If YOU have ‘coin youll be onto the next new thing/Unicorn product in a few years anyway. Only tight/poor **** ride the same frame only for ten yrs 😆

Nope its doubtful that i will have it in 2yr but in two years it will still have 8 years transferable warranty left making it quite desirable.
Im unlikely to have the cash to blow on the next new thing next year as im quitting my second job so i have more time to ride, as i say i have a good Five.
Hopefully im never that tight/poor

This probably won’t help…..my new toy.

P1000341 by Magdalen734, on Flickr

is there a new one out soon?

Not that I know of. Ibis are bringing out a new model or two but they’re not replacements for the HD.

The only thing that put me off the Liteville was that the 301 And the 601 were just too light for their travel for me to feel confident about them.

Find some vids of German guys on them… most will be pretty hardcore alpine mountain descent (and ascent). None of this trail centre nonsense.

Oh and Liteville warranty is 10years, and transferable to any subsequent buyer too, unlike some other mfrs. DH and race included too.

Would like to know what the special offer is though, to people that crash their bike on car rack into garage wall etc.

Oh and if you ride with yer goolies near the shock linkage, then I think you prolly need to sort out riding position 😉

Someone please talk me out of buying a 301….

2148,- EURO frame only …….. that’s me talked out of it anyway.

Buy it!

Frame + shock for that price (headset also included too, and all the other bits that you expect to be bundled).

But it is a bit on the steep side for an alu frame. Nice though.

Wow shock included too. ‘Generous’ 😉

Truthfully, it would have to be very very good to be better for me than my Mega with a Loco tune at £760.00.

But if I was in the market for a new frame, then a Nicolai or Liteville would be at the top. Second hand though because they can’t be worth that much new.

Am extremely pleased with my s/h Mk8. 🙂

Find some vids of German guys on them… most will be pretty hardcore alpine mountain descent (and ascent). None of this trail centre nonsense.

That’s true, but something just doesn’t add up. Liteville state the 301 weighs 2.5kg without shock, offers 160mm of travel and is warranted for a 180mm fork.

The Nicolai Helius AC weighs 2.9kg without shock and is only warranted for a 160mm fork.

Other 160mm bikes are similarly about half a kilo heavier and also only warranted up to 160mm forks.

So either Litville have some super strong new aluminium alloy that no one else has or radical manufacturing technique or they are willing to accept a few more returns on warranty when the frames break.

Besides pictures of it being ridden are no proof that the frame has longevity built into it.

Honestly I love them, love the look of them, love the design of them and I am sure I would love the ride of them so I am not knocking them. I am just a little wary that they’ve been built just a little too, ahem, Lite.

I’d have either…I’d prefer the Nicolai for the custom options but it would probably be an extra £1000 (for me, as I’d wanted a custom seat tube and some other options).

It wouldn’t cost anything like this much. Full custom is now, I think, £600 extra and for that you get to spec pretty much what you want within the parameters of an existing design.

Mine is full custom and the upcharge was £500.

Mugboo it wont be better than yours. Its like handmade ti litespeeds or Sevens etc to the roadie world. It feels a self-serving niche of customers.

Too right Hora, after 8 years I am gaining control over the new bike itch. It helps that I have worked out what I like and the Mega is more than good enough for me, and at less than half the price 🙂

Doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate the industrial look of a Nicolai though. Way better than looking than all these new fangled, hydro formed tube sets.
I am an Hemlock owner though so maybe I’m not the best judge of looks. It proves that I value handing over looks though 😉

Certainly never heard of one snapping, although I don’t hang around the Liteville sections of the German forums (only Cotic, and local region sub-forums), so maybe some have passed me by.

Now other brands that are more common on UK shores certainly do have reputations for breaking (even if only a few frames – you only get to hear negative user reviews online).

Still tempted, but wish I’d got one when they were only €1970 inc. shock etc.

There are a few of MK10’s kicking about for €1998 at Bike-components.de

I had a carpark ride of the 160mm one with 650b wheels felt nice and light for 160 travel bike , it weighed 30lb dead on, I felt the wheels turned a bit heavy but they did have a set of huge Noby Nics on, pedals quite well 😀

Just been playing with the custom colour options on their website. It’s really rather good 🙂

Do it. Itll be fun. And yoy can rent it too the local rabbi when your not riding it as a snip machine. Youll make your money back in no time. Plus it’ll get washed very well. Even sterilised for every time you want too ride.

I had a demo on a 160 version. Amazing bike, lots of really clever touches like the chain guide. The low weight makes it very fast up and downhill. My 2012 Spicy was better downhill though, the 301 had a touch more flex which became apparent on the rocky downhills of the Lakes.

I actually pushed the button one one but then they wanted to charge £140 extra for the 160 version which they don’t tell you in any advertising so I got a bit miffed and got a Remedy instead.

Merely a point of order but liteville are made in Taiwan to German specs

Is this true, as I’ve also heard from people trying to sell the frames that they are made in Germany?

Tried 3 301’s last night:

Med: 140mm with 26 inch
Large: 160mm, 34’s and 650b
XLarge: 160mm, 34’s and 650b

All different builds and feel very different to each other, very nice well made bikes, slightly tempted….. 😯

Tried 3 301’s last night:

Med: 140mm with 26 inch
Large: 160mm, 34’s and 650b
XLarge: 160mm, 34’s and 650b
What rear tyre/rim combo were on the 650b bikes? I am on a 160 Mk11 size L, and it rocks. But I am ever so tempted to try 650b…

Buy one, realise what an awful mistake you made, then sell it to me at a discount?

If its the polished version OP- I say BUY IT.