Super car or Super bike(s)?
comment i heard yesterday, customer had taken their ferrari for a drive, it broke down. Called the manufacturers helpline, conversation, "have you driven it in the rain", "yes", "that'll be the problem then, one of the sensors doesn't like water and it lives in the wheel arch."Posted 7 years ago
Well, unless you take it to a track, you'll probably never really experience the full potential of a supercar, and all but a tiny number of people aren't good enough drivers to exploit that potential anyway. Most people are, contrary to their own beliefs, quite poor drivers in reality. Their driving 'skills' would struggle to do a Ford Focus ST justice.
Whereas bikes, on the other hand, even an average rider could benefit from a really nice bike, over a bog standard one (lighter, better components etc). Yet a 'superbike' wouldn't cost 20-30 times what an average cost bike would, more like 4 or 5 (assuming something like a £600-800 'ordinary' bike). You'd find it quite difficult to have a custom bike built that would cost more than £4k really. I dare say you could spend loads more, but only on esoteric fripperies.
Stable of nice bikes, and a stylish, comfy old car to cruise about in!Posted 7 years agopsychleMember
Riding through Kensington today, cruised past a couple of Ferraris and Lambo's sitting in traffic, nice cars it has to be said… but… it got me thinking a little as I continued along: given the choice, which would I prefer, a super bike or a super car?
Now I know a super car goes for a lot more money and all, but in relative terms (ie £150k car or a stable of 'no expense spared' bikes), which would you rather have in your possession? Personally, I think I'd rather own a bevy of beautiful 'custom made for me' super bikes 🙂 How about you?
And, to further the question, what would they be (if you're going for the bikes?)Posted 7 years agoTandemJeremyMember
Bikes – who wants to sit in traffic.
Full sus Ti tandem
something nice and retro
Superlighweight hardtail Custom built
Full sus of some sort – Nicholai?
Boss Hawg for sillyness.
Custom BMW – R1200RS ( they never made one) with supercharger
Then maybe start on teh cars – rebuilt / modernised db5 / e type
GSXR 1000 engined smartPosted 7 years ago
If you are ever lucky enough to get a go of a supercar you really won`t want a bike
I'm not really a 'petrolhead', so I'm not bothered about how fast a car is. You're not going to be able to get any fast car up to maximum speed on any British roads (legally), only on a track, which is just going round and round. Motor racing is completely different; that, I can understand.
The primary function of 'supercars' is to serve as an indication of the wealth/economic status of the owner. If you're really into speed, then get into motor racing, or land speed record attempts or whatever. As has been shown on Top Gear, a Caterham or an Ariel Atom is bastard fast, so if speed's your thing then get one of those, maybe. In the hypothetical scenario that you have a free reign to drive a car as fast as you can, on public roads, most people woulds find a modest 'sports car more than enough. Don't kid yourself, that just because you can spin the wheels of your Ford Mundane or get your Nissan Micra sideways, that you could do a Lamborghini Fastbastard justice, you couldn't. You'd crash and burn. Imagine yourself on Lance Armstrong's bike; he'd still cane you on a Ridgeback.
I can appreciate the desire for engineering perfection; a BIC Biro is adequate, so why have a Mont Blanc fountain pen? It's just nice to have nice things. But with cars, most of us would never be able to enjoy what they are really capable of. So, perhaps better to go for something a little more modest, or attainable.
Which is where bicycles come in. For a fraction of the cost of a supercar, you could have an absolutely amazing bike. One which could take you where no Ferrari ever could. To remote places of peace and tranquility. Cars need roads; mountain bikes don't.
It's a bit like houses; why would you want to burden yourself with a 20 bedroom mansion, when a 3 bed house is perfect?
Is it for you, or to impress the neighbours?Posted 7 years agofreegan bikefascistSubscriber
as I said to Mrs Fascist a few weeks ago. Thank heaven we're not rich, otherwise I'd be collecting cars like I do bikes 😆
ofc, if I had the money for a supercar (more likely a barn full of classics), I'd also have enough for the bike collection so the answer is both, but I wouldn't give up the bikes to be able to afford the car. My dream collection is close to the one I've got;
853 Evil Sovereign fitted as a trail bully
Cotic Road rat fitted for commuting and touring
Ibis Tranny fitted up light and singlespeed
Kona Stinky Dee-lux dressed as itself
I'd like to swap the Stinky for something (but don't use it enough to justify that and I'd like to add a mid travel trail bike, probably a Spider 2 (although the Yeti ASR carbon 5 looks mighty tempting)Posted 7 years agotronMember
Bikes are as good as the rider most of the time. On the other hand, a good car can flatter you and put a huge grin on your face.
I'd probably go for an E30 M3 (white, with blister arches), a 190 Evo (yes, the one with the aero kit, in black), a Delta Evo 2 (Martini or Red, obviously) or all of the above if I were spending my own money. If I were going to go for a real supercar, I'd be tempted by an Ultima GTR or the new Mclaren. Or an old 911 RS.Posted 7 years agoskidsareforkidsMember
This would be my only dilema… I've been lucky enough to try a GT3 RS and a standard Gallardo in anger and they are both mental. I WOULD like a Desmodicci, but you can't sleep in a superbike when the mrs throws you out for spending all of your time with your new car/bike…Posted 7 years agocookeaaSubscriber
I would say bikes…
However I do enjoy driving “Enthusiastically” not really something that’s worth doing in a £150K + nob extension once you factor in the silly cost of ownership/maintenance and the fact that you may as well have a big sign saying “FINE ME” stuck on the side…
If I had £150K spare I’d have the bike fleet AND a caterham or westfield 7 I think, nothing fancy but probably a better way to get your motorised kicks that a Ferrari or Porsche I reckon… But bikes have to be first priority I reckon…Posted 7 years agochakapingSubscriber
A real thing of beauty
Funny, that's way too swoopy for my liking. It's the SX Trail of sports cars! I'd take the Lambo instead any day.
If I was daft enough to spend the price of a house on a car, that is.
What's going on with those road signs though? They don;t make it easy for you there, do they?Posted 7 years ago
I'm not really into all the new stuff, I'd have to have:
Escort Cosworth (with just the small spolier)
Mk2 Golf GTi mk2 in Oak Green
Alfa 155 V6
The original M3
They're all supercars in my world 🙂
Possibly even stretch to an Allegro Vanden Plas if I had enough pennies left 🙂Posted 7 years ago
Possibly even stretch to an Allegro Vanden Plas if I had enough pennies left
When I was younger(er), a lad I knew, who owned a Maestro Vanden Plas, scoffed at my mate's tatty canary yellow Datsun 120y.
Until the Datsun burned him on a stretch of motorway. I don't think he ever lived the shame down.Posted 7 years ago
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