- Sun Ringle Blackflag wheels
I’ve had mine since December, and the bearing are running as smoothly as when I bought them, but if you take the end caps off, the bearings are fairly open, so I can understand if they get worn quickly in really mucky weather.
I’ve got mine tubeless, but even when I did have tubes in they still felt like a wonderfully stiff and light wheelset. There isn’t a huge amount of engagement compared to something like chris king hubs, but it hasn’t bothered me, it’s fine for everyday riding. The straight pull spokes might potentially be a little harder to find and/or true, but they’ve been flawless so far, no noises or movement in the slightest.
Considering the 50% off deal, that was crazy good value for them.Posted 6 years agoscruffMember
I had 2011 experts, the freewheel / axle flexed and the teeth dug into the body making a horrible noise. CRC forwarded the problem to Hotlines who didnt get back to me. Some searching shows its not an isolated incident and a guy off here had same problem. Sun Ringle USA were really helpful but couldnt offer a fix, apparently the 2012 are better and can be upgraded to a thruaxle.
Ended up getting full refund from CRC. Shame as I liked the quiet freehub, they went tubeless really easy and were a good wide stiffish rim. Back on noisy Hopes / Flows now.Posted 6 years ago
The 2012 freehub is not particularly quiet, not quite as loud as a hope, but almost. I like it, but it might put some people off. The 2012 ones also can be changed to a thru-axle, so they no longer have the flexing problem even with a 9mm skewer. Mine went up no problem with a trackpump and the right tires for tubeless.Posted 6 years ago
IME SR rear hubs are cack / not up to UK riding conditions. CRC were very good with warranty but save yourself the bother and get Hope / similar.
>I’ve had my experts for two months and have been impressed apart from having to replace the front bearings already.<
Contradiction in terms – how can anyone possibly be impressed by a wheel that gives 2 months out of set of hub bearings?
Interweb’s awash with SR complaints – spend the extra £££ and get something that will work / last.Posted 6 years ago
theblackmount – that’s why I said ‘apart from’, as in ‘not impressed by that bit’, kinda obvious I thought but hey ho.
I’ve emailed CRC and Hotlines asking them about replacement parts for the rear but not had a response as yet. When/if I get one I’ll post it on here just in case.Posted 6 years ago
Yeah I got that jruk but then they are the only moving parts in a front hub;-) I had exactly the same problem with SR Jumping Flea so I can only conclude that the sealing in their hubs is crap and or they fit cheapo bearings. At least you can deal with the front for a modest outlay – I’ve had 18 months out of the BETD replacement bearings I installed.
On the JF rear Hub (and on the BF it would appear) you have to throw away the Freehub when the inner bearing packs in – it’s a needle roller bearing which is swaged in / not user serviceable. That bearing needs very regular cleaning and greasing – none of which is indicated in any service instructions on the SR website. In fact there were no service instructions provided with the Hubs either. And even if there were, having to replace an entire Freehub to the tune of £180 for one wee bearing is frankly taking the p1ss.Posted 6 years agoScienceofficerMember
Reading this with interest, since I’m running a set I got in the 50% deal a while back. No Problems so far, but I’ve really only been running them for about a month since I finished my build.
If the back blows, I’ll probably just rebuild them with a pro2. I like the rims, they’re the right combination of weight a strength.Posted 6 years ago
Been running mine for only a couple of rides so far. Front seems a little flexy when pushed hard into corners but appart form that, so far so good. I put some additional grease in the freehub to quieten down the clicky noise. Early days yet but for the price I paid, happy to consider them semi disposable. Using tubes but will be mounting tubeless soon.Posted 6 years agoKryton57Subscriber
I got mine 50% at CRC too.
No faults so far, using Tube Nobby Nics with Stans. The bearings are cartridge bearings anyway so if / when the fail, the can be popped out / in with a (superior if necessary) replacement.
I agree the bearings look exposed without the converters in, but I used the 15mm converters that has an O ring on. The pushed on with much more tightness / difficulty than my prior Hope pro 2’s so I’d hope the sealing would be as good / better.
FWIW, 6 months use once a week on average through the winter and no issues from either end so far.
I paid £175 for mine so if they lasted only a year I’d be a bit peeved, but not head bangingly so….Posted 6 years ago
Hijacking the thread a little bit, has anyone put a 20mm adapter onto the front hub? I bashed the spacer in on top as best as I could, but both sides are still loose, with a fair bit of play. Do I just need a better fitting socket to get it pushed in further, or is this normal?Posted 6 years ago
Been meaning to post this for a few days…
I contacted Hotlines and had a response within a couple of hours. Really helpful, confirmed bearing numbers and that the rears can be replaced without replacing the freehub. Was told that they need to go back to have the freehub removed so will be interested to know how PG got his off – will have to go and try it for myself…Hotlines can replace / service the rear and send it back for £40.
If anyone’s after bearings (of any type), speak to http://www.thebearingshop.co.uk/ and they’ll sort you out – they can get composite bearings for great prices if you order them in.Posted 6 years ago
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