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  • STW Fantasy Giro 2019 / General giro discussion thread
  • nbt
    Full Member

    Kind of snuck up on me this one, I hadn’t quite realised it starts this weekend. Bit of an open one at the moment – the current champ Froomedog is not defending his title, so will previous winner Tom “mancrush” DuMoulin regain his former crown? Team Ineos’ great white hope Egan Bernal has been withdrawn after breaking his collarbone in a crash, what will they do? Pavel Sivakov looks good for the future, but is he ready now? Froome claimed on Saturday that Bernal’s place had already been filled but didn’t say who was his understudy. Valverde has withdrawn, still not right after a training crash in April. Can Nibali deliver on his home tour? Former ski jumper Primož Roglič has just finished the Tour de Romandie in prime form, has that set him up for a perfect Giro? Can Simon Yates do a Froome and win the Vuelta and the Giro back to back? Perhaps he can then go on to claim the Tour as well? He may well supplant Tom as the mancrush of millions if that does happen….

    Anyway, I’ve set up the customary mini-league over on Velogames. Usual rules apply, i.e. pick a team of names you recognise then get increasingly disappointed as other people outscore you day after day…

    League Name: STW Fantasy Giro 2019
    League Code: 122436321
    https://www.velogames.com/italy/2019/leaguescores.php?league=122436321

    weeksy
    Full Member

    You’d have to put Yates right up there. Roglic i’m not as convinced over the high mountains… Nibali has still to convince me day in day out. Ineos, well if they’re not taking Froome, Thomas or Bernal i can’t see them winning it… but then again, i can’t see who will, so i’m going to have to go with Yates.

    bikebouy
    Free Member

    Tough one, but it’s the first time in years I’m a bit Meh with it all 🤷‍♂️🥴

    lunge
    Full Member

    Roglic for me, with Yates on the podium. I’d love Tao to be in the mix, and I think in time he will be, but this year is just to soon.

    mrhoppy
    Full Member

    I’m in as “Bob Jungels ist massive”.

    stevious
    Full Member

    No one team looks strong enough to do the whole Team Sky Tempo Snoozetime deal on this race and quite a few contenders look like they’ll need to trade attacks to do well. The last half of the race could end up having some great stages.

    nbt
    Full Member

    Eddie Dunbar confirmed as the rider taking Bernal’s place in the squad with Sivakov and Tao as join leaders, Christian Knees road captain

    bikebouy
    Free Member

    Righty ho, I’ve read the squads and I’m going to plug for Lotto Soudal and Thomas De Ghent FTW. I mean, why not? If he’s on form he can pop off the front without the rolling roadblock that is SkNeos hampering his exploits.

    Lotto looks pretty solid, Campenerts/Ewan/DeGhent/Henson/Kluge.. all of them have plenty of wins under their Bibs..

    I’d love em’ to win it.

    nbt
    Full Member

    Wednesday bump. Countdown to the ITT on Saturday…

    Bunnyhop
    Full Member

    I need to pull my finger out and start choosing a team.

    Could be interesting as it’s not a done deal this year.

    beej
    Full Member

    Roglic, Tommy D and Syates as the the top 3. Not sure of the order.

    For the Zwifters, they’re releasing the Stage 1 ITT course.
    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/giro-ditalia/teams-race-zwift-exhibition-prologue-ahead-giro-ditalia-2019-422532

    slowoldman
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    On current form looks like Roglic, though the one big hill in the Tour de Romandie was scrubbed so…?

    nbt
    Full Member

    Evening bump…

    stevious
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    As is usual at the Giro, I suspect that the winner will be us, the viewing public.

    swavis
    Full Member

    I’m in! Should be good, the Giro normally is 😀

    Bunnyhop
    Full Member

    I’m in. although a bit of a rush picking team, as I’m trying to cook at the same time.

    nbt
    Full Member

    Just a reminder that sadly we won’t get expert insight from Ned and Dave on ITV4 – highlights are on Quest (Freeview 114, 10pm). Or if you speak welsh, S4C have Seiclo – Y Giro d’Italia

    timidwheeler
    Full Member

    I’m in with Team Pie. Probably should start thinking of a new team name.

    chakaping
    Free Member

    Should be a hell of a race, I’m going Yates, Dumoulin, Roglic in that order.

    highlights are on Quest

    Oh 🙁

    Bunnyhop
    Full Member

    chakaping – how did you manage to get Yates, Dumoulin and Roglic?

    I’ve got the 2 Toms. DeGendt for his entertainment value (breakawaytastic) and Dumoulin, because I think he really, really wants this win.

    nbt
    Full Member

    Last chance to get your team sorted, entries close at 16.30 CEST (15.30 UK time). You can add a team to the league at any point.

    mildred
    Full Member

    I’m in:

    Eazy Roulers

    easily
    Free Member

    Well that was an unexpected start. For me, anyway.

    I’m not surprised that Roglic has continued to improve, but I didn’t expect him to put 20 sec + on Dumoulin.

    Yates looks like he has good from.

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    Interesting that the top five after stage 1 could easily be the top five at the end. Roglich put 19 secs into 2nd place Yates and it’s all pretty close after that.

    scaredypants
    Full Member

    Will be interesting to see how Roglic goes – in comparison to the others he’s pretty much only just started cycling, hasn’t he ? That means he may have more yet to come than they do but he may also not really know how to pace his effort over a long race, bit like Yates last year but more so (I know Roglic did a solid TdF but that’s different pressure to being right up front and competing to win IMO).

    scaredypants
    Full Member

    Mind, he’s got a week to chill out before the action properly starts – unless it comes up crosswinds or something

    CaptainFlashheart
    Free Member

    How many different ways did Sean Kelly pronounce Roglic during the highlights?

    Also, surprisingly good form from Nibbles. Keeps getting better as he gets older, doesn’t he?

    nbt
    Full Member

    On initial viewing I thought Viviani’s relegation was harsh. On repeated viewings (and with explanation from Brian and Brad) I can see why he was relegated but stil think it was harsh.

    timidwheeler
    Full Member

    My fantasy Giro team think it was very harsh 😭

    BadlyWiredDog
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    Team Ineos’ great white hope Egan Bernal has been withdrawn after breaking his collarbone in a crash

    I’m not sure that technically a Colombian mestizo can be referred to as a ‘great white hope’ in a sport dominated by white people. I know you didn’t mean it with any sort of racial connotation, but it triggered a cocked eyebrow in the BWD kennels 🙂

    On a sideline, I was amused by Richard Moore’s tongue-in-cheek ‘theory’ that Ineos had faked the broken collarbone as a way of reserving Bernal for a serious tilt at the Tour. I think maybe he’s been spending too much time on twitter or with the loons below the line on CN.

    nbt
    Full Member

    Aye, that aspect never occurred to me. Please relay my apologies to Senor Bernal 🙂

    Sandwich
    Full Member

    Looks bad for the “mancrush”. I hope he can make the start tomorrow.

    tiim
    Free Member

    My triple threat of Ackerman, Yates and Roglic has managed to come through the first few stages pretty well and hanging out of the fringes of the STW top 10.

    Hope that’s not the last of big Tom, stupid looking crash, probably caused by the Ineos guy not looking the right way.

    w00dster
    Full Member

    Wasn’t the Ineos guy trying to move another rider out of the way? Thought he placed a hand on the rider in front, then looked like bars or wheels touched.
    But of a crashy start, let’s hope it settles down soon.

    nbt
    Full Member

    Bad to worse for some people, The Mancrush is forced to withdraw 🙁

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/48284384

    timidwheeler
    Full Member

    I’ve got Tom as well. I don’t think it is going to be my year.

    Bunnyhop
    Full Member

    Head said chose Roglic, heart said chose Dumoulin. Wrong choice. I’m at the bottom of the STW pile.
    Sad now for Tom.

    nbt
    Full Member

    So today is a long stage with a cat 2 hill 30km from the end. Sounds like a job for a breakaway specialist. I’m calling Thomas de Gendt for this one. He’ll have some company on the shape of a rider from Nippo Vini Fantini of course, at least till the categorised climb. They’re rapidly becoming the the giro’s version of Wanty Groupe Gobert – stick a rider in the breakaway, we won’t win but we’ll have LOADS of TV coverage. Job Done.

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