- STW Art Club – “Draw a Giraffe or Wild Animal ” [27/1/2012 to 3/2/2012]
Roper, I love your stalk. I like the highlights on the White feathers on top of the legs against the water. I have been trying to get the ‘perfect’ photo of one of my drawings. I started a thread on here last year and got some good advice, also been talking to a few photographers about it. Starting to get better results now but they still look washed out. Wish I had access to a few older drawings still I would love better photos of them. By pencil point I ment is it blended? You can’t really see once it’s on the forum. It’s s lively drawing.Posted 7 years ago
I like the highlights on the White feathers on top of the legs against the water
Thanks for noticing. 🙂Posted 7 years ago
I decided to blur out the water and hoped it would become more of a contrasting background, as the bird gets darker the water gets lighter and the other way round. No one else has ever mentioned it so I presumed I had blended it too much.
Thanks for clearing up pencil point, I used a range from 6H to 8B including F.
Photographing pencil is a nightmare. I use a Nikon D5000 which has an auto “High” setting. It lightens the paper and not quite as much from the dark. Nowhere near right though, The stork’s neck is almost black in real life.
I’m not sure about catflees, but my drawings tend to be too big for my home scanner. I have tried to scan them on a more basic scanner but the pencil quality was lost. It looked more like a digital drawing. That could be due to my lack of patience with scanners.
catflees-what size if you dog drawing?Posted 7 years ago
Hi, that dog is on A3 paper but the drawing is a little over A4.
Scanners wash out pencil work and make them look really flat. I’ve been using a Canon EOS 350d on a sunny day with natural lighting. I’ve used a tripod and a grey scale card. Once an image is put through imaheshack or Facebook though the quality is dropped so it’s never a good representation when presented in that way.Posted 7 years ago
Why would anybody want to do a drawing from a photo? All you are doing is drawing a photo. Get the tracing paper out as it will be quicker. Even better get a filter in photo shop and it can be done in seconds. I am being harsh but my recommendation would be to copy somebody who can draw. Copy their pictures then use their techniques to better your pictures. I would start with some of the greats. Say Rembrandt, or Durer. I can’t really see the point of photo realist drawings or paintings myself.
I mean this is ace.
That is what I have done for a long time. For example I could not paint myself like this but I can copy:Posted 7 years ago
That’s why I liked doing the scraperboard pics – copied from photos but you have to put your own style into it.Posted 7 years ago
Same with pencil I guess – it’s never going to be an exact rendering of the photo as you have to use pencil strokes to reproduce what you see in the photo.
Personally, I can only copy from photos (ok at still life), which is why I kind of gave up on art!
But drawing from a photo you are drawing a flat plane. No real 3D and you have lost a good percentage of the colour, depth, contrast, etc. Everybody can draw, most of it can be learnt but like anything it takes a lot of time. You have to have some grasp of geometry and from other artists you can get an idea of what marks you can make.Posted 7 years ago
GEDA, from your comment I don’t think you understand how most of the “masters” worked. They have always used the technology available to aid their work. My recommendation would be for you to go back and look at a bit more art history and technique.Posted 7 years ago
Also you don’t understand different medium if you think a pencil drawing is the same as photoshop. Why draw or paint at all? Just go to country and see it for real.
You might not see the point of photo realist drawings or paintings but a lot of people do. There is room for everyone.
I do know what I mean. I have just been reading the Hockney book about how the masters used cutting edge technology. But part of that cutting edge technology was to use the techniques of other artists. Hockney in fact makes a point that painting is not dead precisly as it can show a more “realistic” image of the world than a photograph. But also that photography is moving towards painting and it is now one big mash up due to the way photos can be manipulated.
I suppose he was saying that photos such as these are actually painting as they have so much post processing.
But he is adding to the photo not starting with the photo and then copying it which is what I am saying is a bit pointless.Posted 7 years ago
I didn’t say couldn’t be bothered. I said too busy. Im not agreeing with what your saying. Creating art can be as much about mood as representation and using a camera at any stage of the process needs no to inhibit creativity. Many artists see cameras as another tool to be used. I say this as someone who has a career as a photorealist.Posted 7 years ago
which is what I am saying is a bit pointless.
It is pointless. This is stw art club.Posted 7 years ago
You also being presumptuous in how some of the work here is produced, and are wrong. For the record Saatchi is also a fan of the realist movement and includes some in his collection, not that that means much but does demonstrate there is more to it than you are seeing.
When did I say that using a camera inhibits creativity? The opposite really. I use a camera but copying photos on its own is in its nature one dimensional. I can see why you might feel defensive if you are a professional photo realist artist. All I said to begin with was you will learn a lot more by copying other artists than copying a photo.Posted 7 years ago
Next theme. Great drawings this week and also a piece of installation art 😯
Have fun.Posted 7 years ago
I’ve added all the pix to gallery post here 🙂Posted 7 years ago
I would say it is not. The establishment, for example Saatchi promotes artists that are “innovative” and claim to be doing ground breaking stuff
well I would say that you’re wrong.. one cannot begin to hope to get an art degree and thus a foot on the first rung, without first demonstrating a very clear and concerted effort to understand and emulate the works and techniques of those that have gone before..
thus making one’s way in the establishment requires the formula that you subscribe to.. at least at a grass roots level..
It’s the very reason that I couldn’t get to grips with art school as a temperamental and haughty young man as I was far too busy trying to be original..
as for being the ‘best’ or only way to draw properly.. well I’m sure that’s not for any of us to say.. (although I’ll certainly be giving it a try.. 🙂 )
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