Steel HT weights

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  • Premier Icon Normal Man
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    After reading the 29er FS weight thread, thought I would ask about steel ht’s as that’s what I ride at the moment.

    There seems to be plenty of 120-140mm forked, wide bar/short stem, etc type bikes on here.

    So what sort spec and weight is your ht?

    Thanks guys.

    Orange P7
    Vanilla R, XT, hope proII on XM317, Hope X2 brakes, Orange finishing kit. 28lbs – but, in STW cliche, “rides lighter”.

    fatgit
    Member

    Hi
    Niner SIR 853 29er hardtail
    XT/XTR gears, Moots seatpost, Carbon Haven bar/Maverick SC32 forks/HopeStans Crest tubeless with Bonty tyres
    Approx 28lbs
    Love it!!!!
    Cheers
    Steve

    mikewsmith
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    On One 456 built like my heckler weighs about the same due to lower spec bits and tougher wheels

    still rides fine

    Rickos
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    Weighed my BFe frame (17.5 inch) after getting it powder coated and it was 5 1/2 lbs. They cocked up and ended up with 2 layers of powder coat on it, but doubt that adds too much (nice extra protection though).

    No idea on finished wieght, but with coil Pikes it’s never going to be 26 pounds! Building up a 456 as a singlespeed this weekend and that will be a good deal lighter with air Manitous up front, etc.

    My Stumpy EVO is 28 1/2 pounds. I would think the BFe is heavier, even without a dropper seatpost.

    mk1fan
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    Cove Handjob, rigid but geared. 22/23lbs.

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    My Soul was about 26lbs, built for allround use. Maybe as much as 27lbs, depended on the tyres.

    Premier Icon colournoise
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    XS BFe. Almost dead on 29lb. Not light, but plenty tough enough for a heavy-handed rider.

    Marzocchi 44LR (150mm, 10mm QR axle)
    Stan’s Flow on Superstar Switch hubs
    Continental Rubber Queen 2.2 UST front (running tubeless)
    Continental X King 2.2 Protection rear (running tubeless)
    Raceface Ride AM cranks on a Hope stainless BB
    Blackspire 34T chainring & Raceface bash
    Superstar Plasma chain device
    Superstar Nano Tech pedals
    SRAM X9 rear mech (short cage)
    SRAM X9 twist shifter
    Shimano XT brakes – 203mm F, 180mm R (still wearing BB7s in photo though)
    Ragley Wiser 710mm bars on Ragley Stubbing 55mm stem
    Ragley Cheeky saddle on Forca Vario dropper seatpost

    slainte 😳 rob

    Cotic Soul 17.5″ mk2; Float 140RL, Flow/Pro2, 1×10 X9 with bash on Truvativ cranks, Race M4 Evo 183/160, 50mm Renthal stem, 711mm Haven Carbon bars, Gravity Dropper, Spoon, Rubber Queen 2.2 / X-King 2.4 BC tubeless, DMR Vaults. Just over 26lbs when clean (rarely). V awesome!!!

    Premier Icon jonny m
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    My R8, 25lbs

    float
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    30 lbs last time i measured it

    stumpy01
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    16″ inbred with cheap build spec – mainly bits nicked from my old FSR. RF Deus xc stem & bars are probably lightest bits. Oh, and it has 08 Rebas on it.
    Wheels are pretty heavy. Crankset is budget Shimano, seatpost was cheapest I could find on CRC. It weighs around 29/30 lbs. Pretty sure it’s a fair bit heavier than my 2010 Stumpjumper FSR.

    Large Cotic Solaris
    Reba forks
    Hope/Flow/Ardents
    1×9 XT with MRP x1
    Thomson stem and Easton EC70 bars
    Thomson post and Aliante saddle
    XT SPDs

    26.5 pounds 🙂

    Scamper
    Member

    My small Soul frame is 4.4lbs. Build been as low as 23.5 lbs but currently 25.4lbs – a nice lightish but toughish build

    Hope Pro 2/Arch EX
    20mm maxle lite Revs.
    1X9 SLX (double and bash cranks)with bbg bash/jumpstop
    XR4/Rocket Ron
    711 Sunline Bar/Haven stem
    Saint short cage mech
    XT Shifter/Cassette
    Deore 596 180/180 brakes
    Spoon/Thomson
    Nanotech pedals

    bigbloke
    Member

    Whyte 19 Steel 27.5lbs

    Hope wheels mavic xm317 rims
    Conti X King 2.2 tubed
    Flat pedals
    FSA V Drive cranks
    Thomson post
    Crank Bros Iodine 3 bars
    SLX shifters/rear/front mech/cassette 3×10 speed
    Avid Elixir 5 brakes 160/185
    Fox ALPS 120 fork

    GW
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    If you care about weight why on earth would you choose a material with as poor weight to stiffness as steel for the heaviest component? 😕

    nmdbase
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    Coz ali is crap for a hardtail?

    Premier Icon DezB
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    My Handjob is about 27lbs. Same weight as my Yeti 575!

    Ns surge, singlespeed, mavic 719/721 combo, coil pikes. 27lbs.

    Premier Icon Rusty Spanner
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    Rock Lobster 853:

    719’s, Hope hubs. Big tyres.
    Thomson post.
    Spoon.
    Carbon bars.
    SLX brakes.
    27 speed XT, SLX, Deore d/c.
    Wellgo MG1’S.
    Rebas.
    27 and a half pounds.

    Partner has the alloy one, similar spec but full XT, SID’s, 717’s & Hope brakes – a good couple of pounds lighter, much livelier ride.

    brakes
    Member

    Cotic Soul with good and strong kit, but not weight weenie in any way.
    26 lbs.

    Saccades
    Member

    1 ounce under 32lb.

    18″ 456ebb prototype
    Pace RC41 Fighter (the really light 6″ jobbie).
    XM819s laced CK on the front, Alfine on the rear.
    2.4 Fat albert UST front and back.
    EA50 finishing kit
    BB7 8″ on both ends.
    HT1 LX crank with XT bb.

    Rides like it’ll flatten anything.

    docrobster
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    17″ dialled PA (853)
    Bare frame weighed 4.9lb
    Built up:
    140revs (qr) with poploc
    FSA orbit XLII headset
    Superstar xc430 rims on switch hubs
    Advantage 2.25 front 2.1 rear with tubes
    1×9 Deore LX cranks hope ceramic BB
    SRAM x9 mech x7 shifter
    11-34 cassette can’t remember if slx, xt or SRAM
    SRAM chain
    SLX brakes avid rotors 180f 160r
    Superstar xcr bb mounted guide
    Race face bar stem and post
    Chromag seat qr
    Fizik nisene saddle
    Odi ruffian grips
    Deore trail spds
    26.7lb all up

    Previously had a 18″ 456 summer season
    Frame weighed 5.7lb
    With uturn air pikes, full slx 2×9, mechanical dropper post hope pro 2s on flows 2.35 high rollers tubeless and DX spds weighed about 32lb

    As you would expect the PA climbs much better but feels less planted on the downs.

    thomthumb
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    18″ 456
    coil pikes
    1×9 XT/ SLX / Deore mix
    hope on 719

    sub 30 lbs with the right tyres

    soobalias
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    my dialled PA is really close to docrobsters in spec, so hope his weight is accurate.

    ime a hardtail built for use, weighs a shade under 30lbs, just like a full susser built for fun weighs a shade over 30lbs.

    incidently, all my mtb and car tyres are inflated to 30psi

    law of fives, innit.

    docrobster
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    Weighed with hand held luggage scales soobalias, so who knows!
    The frame weight tallied with what other people had weighed theirs at so no reason to doubt it really. 🙂

    brakes
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    is yours 853 though or scaffold?

    Premier Icon mccann.ben
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    Medium Solaris
    100mm Reba’s
    Full XT (weighed including SPD pedals)
    Thomson post/stem
    Salsa Whammy Alu bars (proper full 780mm)
    Peaty lock on’s
    Gobi pearch
    Hope/crest wheels set up tubeless with sealant
    Maxis Ikon tyres
    25.5lbs and bloody fast!
    Didn’t build it to be light but god I’m happy!
    Probably put some proper rubber on soon that will take it up a bit.

    Evil Sovereign (heavy)
    Vanilla 140s
    Pro 2/ Flow with High Rollers or similar
    XT/ SLX drivetrain with full chain device
    Big bars, short stem
    Cheap crap pedals

    29.something lbs.

    Fairly hefty, but I wouldn’t really want a much lighter build. The frame is a bit of a lump (6lbs+) but it doesn’t really bother me.

    swingbing
    Member

    Rickos – Member
    Weighed my BFe frame (17.5 inch) after getting it powder coated and it was 5 1/2 lbs. They cocked up and ended up with 2 layers of powder coat on it

    Powder coating my large soul frame added 38 grams, so I wouldn’t loose any sleep over an extra coat.

    steezysix
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    My old Surge was 34lb as pictured here. Such a great bike.

    warpcow
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    P1020898 by warpcow, on Flickr

    Medium Sovereign
    Hope Pro2 on 719s
    Pike 454
    SLX cranks, XT gears, Gamut p20 (1×10)
    Gravity Dropper, Charge Spoon
    Truvativ, Sunline, ESI cockpit
    Formula K18, 180/160mm

    28.6lbs

    Rigid single speed. Dunno how much it weighs but probably less than all of those posted above which makes me dead happy so I’ll be able to sleep soundly tonight.

    Premier Icon tomd
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    Genesis Altitude 853. 28lbs with quite light tyres.

    Reba SL
    SLX/Arch wheels
    SLX/XT drivechain
    Stock finishing kit

    Why steel? I like the look and the geometry is good on that frame. The weight is OK, but granted not the lightest for the money.

    mlucas666
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    Genesis Latitude 853

    2013 Reba RL
    Zee Rear Mech/Shifter
    Truvativ Firexx Crank/Hope Ring/Hope Bash/Jumpstop/Bionicon C.Guide V2
    Truvativ Cockpit/Superstar grips
    Superstar Pedals
    Superstar Hubs/Mavic XM719 rims
    Nobby Nic DD 2.25’s
    Avid Elixir 5 Brakes

    Weight: Exactly 27lb

    Could probably lose another pound by swapping out the Truvativ Fittings/Crankset.

    Premier Icon rosscopeco
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    Untitled by Rosscopeco, on Flickr

    Cotic Medium Solaris
    100mm Rebas
    Rohloff rear hub 16t on ZTR Crests
    Stans front hub on ZTR Crests
    2.1 Schwalbe Racing ralphs tubeless
    Middleburn Uno 34t x-Type
    Time Atac XS pedals
    USE carbon seatpost with Brooks Ti B17 (not light!)
    Hope X2 brakes with braided hoses
    Thompson 90mm stem
    USE 580mm Atom carbon bars
    Ergon grips

    With no mud guards…27.25lb on the scales.

    andy1001
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    ock Lobster 853:

    719’s, Hope hubs. Big tyres.
    Thomson post.
    Spoon.
    Carbon bars.
    SLX brakes.
    27 speed XT, SLX, Deore d/c.
    Wellgo MG1’S.
    Rebas.
    27 and a half pounds.

    Partner has the alloy one, similar spec but full XT, SID’s, 717’s & Hope brakes – a good couple of pounds lighter, much livelier ride.

    I’ve got a pretty heavy lobster 853, and rode a mate’s alloy lobster, with much lighter gear on too. Got to say I still prefer the steel ride. Funny you use the word livelier, as alive is how many (inc. myself) describe how steel rides compared to ali. It has a zip and zest about it. Ali is dull. Esp. important as you settle into a bike and get used to it over time. Ali just starts to feel dead in comparison to well designed steel frame. Ali is more clinical, but also more wearing on long rides and lacks character and a fun feel that flows with you. If you care about weight / speed, just lose a couple of pounds form the belly and you’ll be healthier too! Also speed differences tend to be noticed when jumping from one bike to another, but over time you don’t notice them. But you will always know you are on a quality steel bike.

    MrFannay
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    18″ Stanton Slackline with gravity dropper
    150mm Revs
    Hope/Arch EX wheels, Hope X2 brakes
    X9 2×10 speed
    Carbon Havocs
    Ti BelAir saddle

    27.8lb

    Premier Icon Rusty Spanner
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    I’ve got a pretty heavy lobster 853, and rode a mate’s alloy lobster, with much lighter gear on too. Got to say I still prefer the steel ride. Funny you use the word livelier, as alive is how many (inc. myself) describe how steel rides compared to ali. It has a zip and zest about it. Ali is dull. Esp. important as you settle into a bike and get used to it over time. Ali just starts to feel dead in comparison to well designed steel frame. Ali is more clinical, but also more wearing on long rides and lacks character and a fun feel that flows with you. If you care about weight / speed, just lose a couple of pounds form the belly and you’ll be healthier too! Also speed differences tend to be noticed when jumping from one bike to another, but over time you don’t notice them. But you will always know you are on a quality steel bike.

    Hello andy. 🙂

    Look, I know what you mean – I’ve had loads of nice steel frames over the years and there is a certain ‘zing’ to them.
    They do tend to feel comfier on big day rides, and the spring and give of a nice steel frame can make them feel more involving.

    However, the right grips, bars, tyres and seatpost can make an alloy bike almost as comfy as a steel one – and that weight difference isn’t to be sniffed at.

    I’ve always been a bit of a steel snob, but after riding Ms Spanner’s bike quite a lot over the last few years things aren’t as clear cut as I once thought.

    I reckon design is more important than material, tbh.

    forexpipz
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    Go single speed and forget about all that weight bs.
    Get some fast rolling high volume tyres and forget it even more.

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