has anyone used these?:

any good?

i’ve found that shimano ‘wide’ fitting shoes are very comfy, i can’t find any of the mountain style shoes (M087W), but i can find plenty of the road style shoes (R087W) – i thought maybe these funky cleats would stop me ruining my kitchen lino…?

No, the plastic part will not fit into a mtb show and on a road shoe they aren’t strong/long/deep enough to stop the metal cleat marking a floor.

It’s the shoes that make the difference.

Perhaps try a brand other than Shimano, which are very narrow? I believe Northwave are good for wide feet? I’ve narrow feet so cannot help too much, but I would say you are best getting a shoe which fits your.

what size do you need?

well, i’ve got a couple of pairs of northwave shoes – and i’m mostly impressed. But in terms of comfort, shimano wide are in a different league.

size?

43, … or was it 44? – i honestly can’t remember.

Specialized shoes are generally realtively wide. I us the BG Expert and the cleat hardly protrudes (if at all) so walking is fine. The sole is reinforced with carbon so pretty stiff, but the outsole is a chunky non-slippy rubber, so they’re good for walking round in. Highly rate them.

(also as an aside, i highly rate the different spesh insoles)

bontrager mtb shoes are also relatively wide fitting.

[edit] for reference – my shimano road shoes are 43 wides…

shimano has stopped making those.. as picture at the top in the OP

they are SPD-Road cleats – but as above now defunct.

better of with some of Shimano touring shoes and standard SPD – I use these (albiet Time ATAC) on my road bike

the SPD touring shoes and pedal fit together:

Pedal Ultegra:

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/shimano-pd-a600-spd-touring-pedals-prod21829/

Shoes:

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/shimano-rt81-spd-shoes-bronze-white-prod23616/

They do a cheaper version of both shoes and pedals. Specialized also make some similar shoes – bit wider/bigger fit

BG Sport
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/specialized/bg-sport-touring-shoe-ec025555

specialzied shoes are wide or alternatively sidi do a wide fit too, their standard is narrow. Avoid diadora too if you have wide feet.