- Some sort of cross country tyre?
Aargh, a what tyres thread… Thing is I have a really good idea of what I normally like, but I haven’t a clue what’s good in the world of more XC kit. For the first time in years I have an honest-to-god XC bike, got a set of SIDs for my Soda… It’s normally rigid so the main tyre choice factor is “something massive and bouncy”… Nevegal 2.5 currently!
So, a proper XC bike calls for a proper XC tyre, but I’m a bit too used to big, super tacky trail/dh rubber for a lot of those to be a very good idea.. So looking for an inbetweener, something that rolls sensibly quick but will suffer my front-heavy riding and unreasonable expectations. Something with decently sticky rubber and a bit of tooth.
So where to start? Not a Nobby Nic fan, my Karmas are good for race days but probably a bit too XC for everyday use. The bike’ll have to deal with allsorts on one set of tyres so probably Ardents are a little too dry, not sure, it’d be a good option the rest of hte time… Bonty XR3?
Any suggestions much appreciated.Posted 4 years ago
I really like smallblocks as a rear tyre. I am going to interpret the suggestion of putting one on the front as attempted murder though. Slant though, hmm.
Hmmmmmmm. I suppose I should probably be thinking about Mountain Kings… A sadly absent big hitter just suggested rubber queens which I think are not for me, had those before but maybe the Kings will suit (I had original Kings, they were pish, so I am prejudiced)
Nobeer, do you not find the Purg a little hard? I’ve not actually used one that I can recall but I think the compound’s the same as the eskar?Posted 4 years ago
I love my Butchers but… it’s just kind of a wrong idea, thematically wrong 😉 If I end up with that much tyre on the xc bike I might as well just ride the Ragley instead. So it’s like, I don’t want a bad bike but I want a different bike, with a bit of speciality.
Also, it’s nice to play with new things!
Advantage, I’ve used before and they’re great most of the time but they’ve got that maxxis grip-no grip thing which just freaks me out on the front…
So I guess, in the shortlist is
X-King 2.4 RaceSport
and still out there is
Maybe downsize on Nevegals, used to love the 2.1s, should still have some of those maybe.
And absolutely zero love for the Bontys.Posted 4 years agolocalhero94Member
I’ve just done exactly the same thing (put sids on my soda from rigid). I’m currently using a bonty xr1 on the rear and a rocket ron 2.25 snakeskin on the front. This is perfect for my local trails and long-distance stuff, but was a bit hairy when I took it around Afan a couple of weeks ago (although I think that was more to do with trying to ride the bike like my full 5″ full sus rather than the tyres).Posted 4 years agoBadlyWiredDogSubscriber
There’s supposed to be a 2.35 Ikon somewhere in the pipeline that’s designed with taller side-knobs and supposedly, based on feedback from the US where it is available, a fast but decently grippy front tyre option. One of those and a 2.2 Ikon on the back could be interesting.
It’s hard though, one person’s fast and grippy is someone else’s sketchy and marginal. If you’re not speed obsessed a 2.35 Minion DHF on the front and a 2.25 Ardent on the back is a decent all-round combination, the Ardent on the front is fine in the dry, less clever when things get soft.Posted 4 years ago
Happy enough with that sort of weight tbh, I don’t want the durability compromise of really light tyres. Ralphs I will avoid, not really as grippy as I’m after and when I last ran TLR Snakeskins tubeless they were forever puncturing, was almost glad to find they wore out in 10 minutes flat 😉 (I reckon the majority of all the punctures I’ve had in the last 2 years were from that one set of tyres, even though they didn’t last long and got the least hard use)
Captain on the list, cheers!Posted 4 years ago
Ralphs I will avoid, not really as grippy as I’m after and when I last ran TLR Snakeskins tubeless
That’s odd although I appreciate stuff is different for everyone. I’ve got Ralphs on American Classic race wheels on one bike, and a Hans Dampf/Nic on American Classic AM wheels on the other. All Snakeskin TLR and they’ve become default spec for me on any bike going forward (as have the wheels tbh, love those wide rims!)Posted 4 years ago
So when you said:
proper XC tyre
What you really meant was not really an XC tyre at all? Got it! 😉
Captains are reasonable. If you found Ralphs fragile you’ll want the Control carcass, which is well over 600g, and feels like it IMO!
£ for lb they are not so bad compared to the ralphs, but I do take your point.
Are they? They’re what… £30? €34.90 for Ralphs.Posted 4 years agochivesMember
Recently switched to a NN gatestar compound on the front (from a Ralph) to see if I could get more grip up front on the more loamy off-piste stuff at Haldon. Have to say the grip is good, running c.26 psi up front & 28.5 rear.
Managed to put a 10mm long slash in the crown of the tyre on it’s first real outing mind you, so lost a few places while it lost enough pressure to seal up. Finished with 8 psi in the tyre, but at least it didn’t roll off the rim on the last lap!Posted 4 years ago
njee20 – Member
So when you said:
proper XC tyre
What you really meant was not really an XC tyre at all?
Objection yer honour! Quoting out of context!
“So, a proper XC bike calls for a proper XC tyre, but I’m a bit too used to big, super tacky trail/dh rubber for a lot of those to be a very good idea.. So looking for an inbetweener”Posted 4 years agobigjimSubscriber
slant 6 on the back and butcher control on the front is what I’ve got at the moment, seems ridiculous but it’s lots of fun.
Oh and I saw someone riding the uplift at Inners at Jayfest with slant 6 front and back, and they were still alive at the end of the day, braver than me though!Posted 4 years ago
Jeeez… am I doing this all wrong? N-Nic 37 front, 41 rear…
Pressures that low would drive me schizoid! How do you cope with all the rolling / dragging / squirming..?
12st and I run 2.25 Ralphs at 18psi front and 20 psi rear.
Wide rims, and snakeskin sidewalls is the short answer. Nay a hint of roll, LOTS more grip.
God, I’ve ran Hans Dampfs at 13psi on a wet technical DH day…Posted 4 years ago
I think the Captain’s probably my number one just now, just because I was considering one of those for a rear on another bike anyway… So it’s a safe option
bigjim – Member
Oh and I saw someone riding the uplift at Inners at Jayfest with slant 6 front and back, and they were still alive at the end of the day, braver than me though!
I used my trust singleply nevegal/slant combo at fort william last month. Still got the bruisePosted 4 years ago
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