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  • Premier Icon Cougar
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    <mod>
    The long running threads, primarily the Trump, Referendum and religion threads but also others, are generating a *lot* of reported posts. Time and again it’s the same names cropping up either doing the reporting or being reported.

    I for one do not have the time to pick back through thousand-post threads ascertaining who’s in the right between “he said she said…” So it stops, as of right now. We cannot possibly moderate these threads effectively, we don’t have the resource.

    Please treat your fellow man with respect even if they are being an arse. The forum T&Cs are very clear on this.

    If we get one more reported post of someone being a bellend on these threads, irrespective of who’s guilty or innocent I’ll blanket ban all the big hitter parties for a month and to hell with collateral damage.

    Are we clear?
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    Premier Icon Cougar
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    For clarity, I’m not saying “don’t report posts,” I’m saying “don’t make posts that need reporting.”

    Jamie
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    What we need is shadow bans. 8)

    For clarity, I’m not saying “don’t report posts,” I’m saying “don’t make posts that need reporting.”

    Reported for being paradoxical πŸ˜‰

    Premier Icon salad_dodger
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    Amazed that you’ve put up with it this long Cougar.

    Jamie
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    I imagine that fat pay packet helps.

    Might we also incude the amount of ******* swearing that appears on any ******* thread that’s about ********* politics?

    (Note – asterisks for effect to illustrate the usual style of posts in said threads. No intention to evade the swear filter! I’m more creative than that…!)

    Edukator
    Member

    Respect is earned. Respect is not to be confused with fear. Collective punishments reduce respect for any institution imposing them. Think back to school. They facilitate bullying creating a negative dynamic in which victims are doubly punished. The good student who is also a keen swimmer misses out on his swim session because the bully group gets the whole class caught up in a detention.

    You know who the villains are Cougar, and the guy who’s served the longest ban and still come back isn’t one of them. While the sniping, sneering condescending villain of the piece continues the taunting with impunity, I’ve come to assume the villain benefits from immunity due to a share holding or something.

    Anyhow, what works in a school will work here, “firm but fair”. If anyone who gets a ban can see at least some justification then you’ll still earn and merit our respect (because you do), start punnishing the victims and the bullies will reign supreme.

    If you’re really fed up with it, take a break Cougar, if you’re going to continue doing it, do it right.

    Here’s the thing though, this isn’t a democracy and sure as hell doesn’t have to be fair. If YOU don’t like it YOU can take a break. I did, well after my last ban ended, because I was sick of the constant word twisting and often downright fantasy being applied to the things I say by the same people. The first person you refer to (assuming TJ here) was one of them and in fact the one that wound me up so much I lost my temper and posted a rant that got me banned.

    Frankly I’m still sick of the passive aggressive BS on here, if this was a pub most of the “big hitters” would have been barred or glassed long ago. A lot of people need to take a long hard look at themselves and ask if they really would treat people the way they do on here. THM isn’t the only villain (again, assuming he is no.2) and to his credit has the decency not to make stuff up to be outraged by. Just because you agree or disagree with someone doesn’t make them better or worse than you.

    So yeah, as critical as I can be of this place and the mods I’m glad they are taking a stand. Frankly if a few folk buggered off never to return I don’t think the place would be any the poorer for it.

    TL:dR – live with the rules or leave.

    Mr Woppit
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    If we get one more reported post of someone being a bellend on these threads, irrespective of who’s guilty or innocent I’ll blanket ban all the big hitter parties for a month and to hell with collateral damage.

    Crikey.

    roper
    Member

    Would it work if there were some sort of deputy mod? These people, could monitor specific subject areas, i.e. religion, North American politics or European politics., veganism etcetera. Each deputy mob would only then need to follow one or two threads more closely and deal with any issues. They could then escalate any problems to a mod which may prevent large scale bans. This might take the pressure off mods who oversee the forum as a whole. It would be preferable the deputy mods have a grounded understanding of their specialised subjects though, to reduce personal bitching or confusion.

    grum
    Member

    Well I’ve banned you all from my forum already. It’s a great feeling.

    sbob
    Member

    Remove anonymity for reporting posts.
    That’ll be sure to make the bedwetters think twice and is certain to lighten your workload. πŸ™‚

    slackalice
    Member

    Divisive topics lead to divisive opinions, however, the aggressive and sometimes passive-aggressive way in which opinions are sometimes expressed is a shame. Perhaps subject related bans for persistent offenders?

    I would prefer it for this forum not to resort to ‘posts awaiting moderation’.

    Either way I don’t envy the task of the mods.

    Jamie
    Member

    I know this will never happen*, but some forums have a bunfight section where all the angry adult sized toddlers can throw poo at each other to their hearts content. No rules, no reporting etc.

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    *New forum coming etc etc

    Premier Icon Cougar
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    If you’re really fed up with it, take a break Cougar, if you’re going to continue doing it, do it right.

    You may have a point.

    Remove anonymity for reporting posts.

    Um… I have some bad news for you…

    Couger. Just for clarity what would I have to do to get the EU thread closed and all the big hitters banned and would I be allowed back in time for the 6 nations rugby spite?

    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    Maybe just post some warnings out there in the thread? Maybe a generic

    Det. Insp. Jack Regan: All right, Tinkerbell. You’re nicked!

    would do?

    Jamie
    Member

    Um… I have some bad news for you…

    I think they mean that your name is affixed to the post you report. So everyone can see you have reported a post.

    Not anonymity from your good selves.

    km79
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    Someone needs to have a read of article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

    Premier Icon scotroutes
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    If we get one more reported post of someone being a bellend on these threads, irrespective of who’s guilty or innocent I’ll blanket ban all the big hitter parties for a month and to hell with collateral damage.

    Ooh. Tempted…..

    TBH I rarely visit them. I assume its the same few folk keeping them going. It’s not like any of them are going to change their position either.

    Premier Icon Cougar
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    Couger. Just for clarity what would I have to do to get the EU thread closed and all the big hitters banned and would I be allowed back in time for the 6 nations rugby spite?

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    I think they mean that your name is affixed to the post you report. So everyone can see you have reported a post.

    Ah, right.

    We want to encourage people to report things, not the opposite. Reporting posts isn’t a problem, rather that it’s difficult to make a decision on who’s in the right / wrong when there’s a thousand pages of context.

    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    Just do a facebook live of the mods summit

    Premier Icon Stoner
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    on who’s in the right / wrong when there’s a thousand pages of context.

    you dont have kids do you?

    It doesnt matter who did wrong, or who snitched. They’re both in the shit for interrupting Ski Sunday.

    wordnumb
    Member

    But those mega-threads are known to be a primary influence on gov policy, and not just in the UK. Without them the country, maybe the civilized world in its entirety, would be dead in the water. Hammer with care, think of the children.

    wordnumb
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    Also – was anybody else really tempted to report Cougar’s OP?

    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    I did but they did something to sto

    Premier Icon bruneep
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    mikewsmith wrote:

    Just do a facebook live of the mods summit

    That TJ’s flat?

    Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    nah it’s just Mark’s shed, TBH it would be good to know if you were being reported a lot or if your posts were being classed as fine but reported by someone who was grumpy that day… I’ve had a couple of warnings in my time and responded by looking back and taking note before posting again.

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    I’d like to report AA for insulting me on page 16 post 13 from the top of the 2017 rugby thread. πŸ˜‰

    Premier Icon leffeboy
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    If we get one more reported post of someone being a bellend on these threads, irrespective of who’s guilty or innocent I’ll blanket ban all the big hitter parties for a month and to hell with collateral damage.

    And the trolls win unfortunately – their underpants would never be the same again πŸ™ . It’s not possible to win against someone whose objective is to bring the house down

    Don’t worry Kryton, you’ll both be banned anyway when the troublemakers are expelled en masse by Cougar

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    Me? Im neither a big hitter or a troublemaker. Ok i lost my rag before Christmas, but that was a rare occasion, and with some help form another forumite ive modiefied my forum behaviour appriopriately since.

    Note how i quickly left the Trump thread when rounded upon on Friday.

    joshvegas
    Member

    Could you automate a reporters next ten posts to “snitches it get stitches” regardless to what they put in the box?

    I appreciate its not going to help anything but it would be amusing.

    sbob
    Member

    That TJ’s flat?

    One of TJ’s flats

    Premier Icon martinhutch
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    Just do a facebook live of the mods summit

    I always picture it as more like this:

    Premier Icon salad_dodger
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    Just ban the three morons who ruin the forum. You’re welcome.

    I’d like to report AA for insulting me on page 16 post 13 from the top of the 2017 rugby thread.

    And page 17, 19, 20, 22, 24-36 inclusive and page 45

    Lings a mod? HTH did that happen

    Hang on , clicks = revenue stream…..

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