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  • toxicsoks
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    FORD!!!?? How the mighty have fallen! 😉

    VRS estate?

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    Not my choice, but note I put the Audi at the top….

    angryratio
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    The Focus 1.6 ecoboost is your car if you ask me.
    Quick enough for real world driving and the ride is far nicer on bad roads.
    The ST will be poorer on fuel, and the seats take up loads of interior space.

    Can’t comment on the drive of the Audi.

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    …and the seats take up loads of interior space.

    The others have seats as well.

    Premier Icon 2unfit2ride
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    May I suggest Stonebridge in Wembley, you would be doing the world a favour 😉

    yesiamtom
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    Will I have more load space if I remove the seats then ?

    angryratio
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    The ST has bulky Recaro seats which give less rear leg room than on the zetec s.
    Oh, and cash purchase or not Ford have the £1250 Deposit allowance on 2014 cars.
    Borrow £2500 on HP over 24 months, 1 payment of £120.79 then pay it off. might allow you to get a few extras on the car for the same amount from your employer.

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    If loadcarrying is a major factor then it’s one of the Foci, the Focus boot is better than an A4 never mind an A3 not-really-estate. Not as tardislike as it used to be but still excellent.

    (I had a mk1 estate, the boot was so big you could park another mk1 estate in it)

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    The company has to pay the cheque angryratio….

    Premier Icon davosaurusrex
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    Can’t comment on the specific cars but I had a company Golf with the 1.4 122 TSI lump and it was as sweet as a nut! I miss that car, regretting getting an S-Max TBH

    That Audi is a nice car and gets excellent write ups.

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    Size wise, it needs to get a bike and some camping gear in the back, thats as much as I would carry about. I have Thules should I need more.

    I’m warming to that zetec S having read some reviews….

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    Audi A3 sportback 1.4 TSI (new)

    or

    Ford Focus ST estate, 5k miles on the clock.

    or

    Ford Focus 1.6i Zetec S 182bhp Estate, new.

    All are the same price, all are for me only 10k miles motorway for work/bike trips, might have the kids in the back on odd occasions. Its a work purchase over a choice of two garages with a £20k value limit.

    Premier Icon chrisdw
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    Premier Icon takisawa2
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    Assuming the ST is some kind of sports model, I’d go for the new Focus.
    182hp…christ it must shift a bit.!!!

    FunkyDunc
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    I never thought I would say this but what about the Skoda Octavia estate? Much more room than Focus or A3 but still with the 1.4 VAG engine.

    IMO the Focus ST is a complete chav car and nothing more. The Audi is very nice, but feels small.

    But hang on, Im looking from private buyer perspective,not company. Company Audi every time out of that list, and if you want a practical car the Skoda

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    I only have the option of those three cars, courtesy of a bonus offer from work with the local dealers in mind.

    I do have an alternative, and that is to “wait” until April 1 2014 and see if anything better comes up – it may not be car based but possibly a pay rise to go with a promotion.

    havinalaff
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    What have you got at the mo?

    If you like that just wait for the pay rise.

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    Well, an 11yo 330i Sport saloon. Which is paid for BTW, and has all the toys so no doubt taints my jugement of going back to things like cloth seats*…

    *I know!

    The issue is I have a car allowance the comapany isn’t happy about me not using it so to speak… whereas I’m quite happy not to use it on another car purchase. Appreciate the moral factor, I been through it on STW before so please don’t go there….

    tonyd
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    A3 doesn’t have much boot space, I’ve not been in a sportback but they don’t look much bigger. I used to have an S3 and there’s no way I could have easily got a bike in the back, sportbacks look to be about 2 inches longer!

    Your current car will be nicer to drive than any of those, you’d be swapping a very nice older car for a significantly less nice newer car. Once the novelty wore off I reckon you’d miss the 330i. In your shoes I’d keep the BM and hold on to see if anything better comes up.

    ST, definitely.

    Unless the fuel consumption is a worry (but you’re driving a 330) then I’d go for the 1.6 zetec.

    servo
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    I have the Focus estate Titanium X 182hp and I am chuffed to bits with it. Love the way it drives. My old Skoda Octavia 1.4 TSI was pretty dull in comparison.

    The Skoda had a bit more volume inside but the Focus has a much wider boot as the wheel arches don’t intrude. Can easily fit a 29er in there with out taking the wheels off. On the Skoda it was a bit tight.

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    robinlaidlaw – Member
    Your current car will be nicer to drive than any of those, you’d be swapping a very nice older car for a significantly less nice newer car. Once the novelty wore off I reckon you’d miss the 330i. In your shoes I’d keep the BM and hold on to see if anything better comes up.

    Even though I have to wedge a bike on the backseat or put it on the roof…. Oh, but of course I can….

    Millstone/neck….. 🙁

    loddrik
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    Focus ST, without a doubt. Try and get it with the powershift gearbox.

    If you’re doing motorway milage, do not get a 1.4

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    The 1.6 Ecoboost is a superb motor, I`d drive them all and see which one you like, I think the Audi will be too small

    I`d take the new ecoboost Focus estate.

    It`ll be cheaper to run than the ST, on fuel Tax and everything else

    toxicsoks
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    As it happens, I’ll be looking to down-size the Mongdeo estate in the next couple of months. Looking at the usual STW, estate, culprits –
    A4
    Octavia
    Also considering –
    Golf Estate
    Yeti (?!!)
    Any other suggestions?
    The main thing is that it’ll have to tow a c***van. 8)

    (/thread-hijack)

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    Thing that puts me off so much about small/midsize vag estates is the boots. Most (all?) have high lips on them which makes them much less usable, and none of them are very big- encroaching arches, etc. If you’re used to just throwing bikes into a mondeo then putting them in an octavia feels more like trying to get them into your back pocket.

    Also, once you’ve sat on a flat boot under the tailgate in the rain, it’s hard to go back to non-flat boots… Ridiculous way to build an estate frankly.

    Think teh Yeti is an exception to that though, haven’t actually tried one of those.

    servo
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    No lip in the Focus.

    Plus I have the Ford reversible fold out mat. It folds out all the way to the back of the front seats and has straps to attach to the headrests. When folded out it is rubber faced. Folded back up it has carpet. It also has a fold out bumper protector.

    My Octavia was 2009 so still fairly recent. The boot carpet in that was just a piece of thin crap. The Focus standard carpet is about an inch thick. The Focus is a much quieter car. The Focus is an all round much better designed car. I din’t try the new Octavia though.

    havinalaff
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    Who pays for fuel?

    If them then its got to be the st. Just for shits and giggles

    trail_rat
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    Neighbour has one of the higher powered yeti tdi (red d and i)

    I am jelous of it. It looks like bike swallowing brilliance judging by the way her sons wheel chair goes in and its 4wd 🙂

    She has had no issues with it . Its on an 11 plate.

    If it were me I’d be all over the ST. I’d possibly choose one over the mk3 Octavia vRS which a few people have mentioned (which also haven’t fallen into £20k territory yet).

    Actually, scrap that. The ST isn’t orange is it? Don’t go there…

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    I’d keep the BMW.

    Premier Icon Kryton57
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    Now, thinking about this for a bit….

    The 330i is as much, if not more (RWD semi auto) fun at the ST, and more relaxed in a cruise than any of them. It has leather. It costs £800 a year to tax and insure fully comp, and whichever car I drive I get 20ppm with the allowance or 40ppm without.

    The estates are more practical than my saloon, yet will cost more in cash/benefit in kind. They don’t have leather, or climate in the 1.6 Zetec. I already have roof racks for the BM, all bikes fit on the backseat. Personally, it only does 29mpg though. Tax, insurance and servicing would be paid by the company on the three new cars….

    *ponders*

    I’ve got a spreadsheet that allows you to add up all the costs (fuel, insurance, maintenance, deprecation etc)for different car options so you can see the totals over a year or 3 years. I can easily e-mail it to you. I’m sure you could do your own but it might save a little time.

    Rockape63
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    Fabia VRS

    *Chuckles*

    You know what you want…….S3! 8)

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    robin, that would be very much appreciated! Email in profile, thanks.

    However, Its seems I have six months before I get “told” to make use of my car allowance on something other than Nursery/School fees. Thing is, I could understand it if I turn up to my customer in a old banger, but the BM is fairly tidy.

    dragon
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    How did you work out the A3 was an estate? It’s just a normal hatchback.

    robin, that would be very much appreciated! Email in profile, thanks.

    Done.

    mrmoofo
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    So, you get a car allowance … but you are not using it for paying for a car?
    Wow – doesn’t the company specify, how old, how many doors etc??
    We used to – and you could down trade – but you still had to have an under 4 year old motor …

    hammyuk
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    Well just to put this on track – I have a Sportback A3 in 2.0 170 DSG format.
    The newer chassis is better road mannered, the 1.4 engine is very good as long as it is a new one – the first ones suffered terribly with snapped chains, lunched turbos, etc.
    All solved now though.
    The Audi version of the DSG is now called Multitronic.
    A bike will go in fairly easily with the seats down.
    Not across the back seat though.
    Strange as it would in my 330D Touring and they are the same width.

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    the new focus st is a four cylinder direct injection turbo with 246 bhp. it’s not the same as the old 5 cyl turbo volvo lump

    mrmoofo
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    I hope the focus has improved from the 06 version we had ( I assume it has). Dunno why, but it was just nasty to drive – and my wife disn’t like the shape of it, so she modified all the corners on it!!

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