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  • Skoda Yeti vs…?
  • mjsmke
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    Really had enough of dealing with Skoda to the point where I want rid of the car. No end of issues in the 10 months I’ve owned it so looking for something else. I know its silly selling a car so soon and I’ll lose about 5k but it’s not worth the agro, and I don’t have the time to keep taking it back to Skoda knowing I’ll have more poor service. The next nearest dealer is too far away to get to before/after work.

    Requirements:
    Nothing from the VAG group.
    A smallish car that I can put a bike or two in.
    Nothing complicated.
    Reliable.

    Previously had a Fiat 500 with a tow bar rack but my back would suffer putting the rack on and much prefer having the bike inside the car.
    If Fiat’s Panda was a little longer it would be perfect. I had thought about a van but it’s overkill for every day use.

    Premier Icon footflaps
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    Kia Sportage is similar size to a Yeti, loads of them about; must be loads of 2nd hand ones available.

    Premier Icon matt_outandabout
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    Kia Ceed estate?
    Chuffing huge boot for a small car.
    Big warranty.

    Or Seat Ibiza estate, 1.4 16v file the brief in not having much to go wrong at all, is 85k into our ownership and still a fab bike shifter.
    Sadly it’s still VAG, so the cheapy specced dampers are all taking it turns to blow.

    Premier Icon cb
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    I saw some cracking deals on the small volvo. V40 maybe? Uglier than the Neville brothers but well specced and the right size

    mjsmke
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    The Sportage looks nice so might book a test drive.

    I wouldn’t take another VAG car even if it was free. Mines done 12k miles and with the experience I’ve had, cant see it making it to 20k without costing a lot of money.

    jlln
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    Peugeot 207 sw or similat. Had mine 11 years and no bother at all after 90k miles. Back seats fold flat(ish) and I can get my fs in with both wheels off. Not sure if they still make them, but I went with the 1.6hdi 92hp, with no dpf (2008).
    Alternatively a Berlingo. Basically very similar car but more interior space/ head height.

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    We had the last shape Sportage that had a few really annoying problems. Kia had a very weird warranty process where a Kia representative had to attend the dealer to confirm warranty coverage – issue being they were stretched thinly across a huge network and were unreliable. 1st time they didn’t show up, 2nd time they were there but had nothing to compare it to (crunching box alone wasn’t enough). Ended up on the 3rd visit they finally approved a new gearbox. This was at 10k miles, the replacement was even whinier but at least changed gear cleanly.

    Not sure I would ever buy another and certainly never from that dealer.

    I have a Fiesta now and can easily get a bike in the back.

    Markie
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    One of the Fords, like a B-Max or C-Max (or Fiesta!)? I moved from a Yeti to a Galaxy and it’s great!

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    Kia had a very weird warranty process where a Kia representative had to attend the dealer to confirm warranty coverage – issue being they were stretched thinly across a huge network and were unreliable.

    That doesn’t sound right at all. My wife manages 17 kia dealerships (account manager for Kia UK) so I will ask about this. She normally only gets involved if there is something very unusual about the warranty claim or the dealer is looking for a goodwill gesture as it’s not strictly a warranty issue and the dealer wants Kia UK to contribute.

    The biggest problem with the 7 year warranty is people think they can buy a new car, drive it for 7 years without ever servicing it or changing the oil and the turn up 5 years later with a seized engine demanding a new car under warranty. Happens quite a lot….

    Premier Icon boombang
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    Essex Auto Group Thurrock Lakeside was the dealer. Car wasn’t very old and bought from them new. Can’t remember when it was exactly but the Kia warranty person was a guy.

    but my back would suffer putting the rack on

    I recall corsas had a rack that popped out from the bumper? Something like that would be easier than lifting a bike into a boot as well.

    I looked at yetis but they were bloody expensive, so much more than the fabia estate I got, and the fabia boot was bigger too.

    Have a look at seasucker too.

    Premier Icon db
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    Honda Jazz? Seats fold bit like the Skoda and give you more room than you would think.

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    Berlingo too big? New ones are bigger than they used to be but come in Medium and XL. Medium is 4.4m long. Still relatively basic and simple. And still relatively cheap though not like they used to be. Swallow whole bikes for breakfast.

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    Wife just got a B-max, early days but very pleased with it so far, really nice to drive. Read a review saying loading bikes is a doddle due to sliding doors and no B pillar, not tried yet but certainly looks it

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    Renault scenic? Mine has been totally reliable and cheap to run.

    Just kidding, it’s cost an absolute **** fortune . . .

    Avoid with a sturdy pole.

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    Peugeot 2008/3008

    Citroen C3/C4 Picasso

    hooli
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    If you are interested in the Sportage, how about the Nissan Qashqai? Seems some very good lease deals on them at the moment. My mum loves her older one and it has given very few issues.

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    Really had enough of dealing with Skoda to the point where I want rid of the car. No end of issues in the 10 months I’ve owned it so looking for something else.

    What issues are you having/had? Thinking of replacing our Fabia with a Yeti, so I’m interested.

    mjsmke
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    Thanks for the suggestions. I’d forgotten about the Citroens so having a look now.

    What issues are you having/had? Thinking of replacing our Fabia with a Yeti, so I’m interested.

    Design wise its great and cant fault it there. It’s dealing with Skoda thats put me off. The DSG box takes a long time (20 mins the other day when it was 6 degrees) to warm up before it performs properly, so no good for a 15 min commute. Faulty electrics caused the horn to stop working. No free loan cars while warranty work is being carried out. Have to argue with them that it has a warranty.

    Last weekends experience:
    They said to collect the car from them at 12:30 after a service and MOT. so I get there just before then.
    Was told to wait for someone to see me.
    After 40 mins of waiting they phoned me to say it failed the MOT.
    They seemed confused when I said I was already waiting there.
    One of their technicians said its failed the MOT due to the horn not working then went on to say the parts it could be.
    I reminded them it is still under warranty.
    They went on again about the parts it could be.
    I told them Im happy to leave it with them while they replace/repair parts and come back when it is done.
    They were not happy about me wanting to leave the car with them and said a loan car would cost me.
    I explained thats not fair as its under warranty; I should not have to pay more money for a loan car.
    I said I wouldn’t mind what the loan car is, as long as I have a car to get home, to and from work, then back to collect my car. As long as the loan car is free.
    They didn’t care and they pretty much dropped the keys on my lap.

    If they had of just called me earlier in the day to say it’s not done yet, and we’ll let you know when it is rather than telling me to come in, it would have been ok. They could have then called me while i’m at home to say they need to carry out some warranty work and agreed on a different day to collect it. That way there are no wasted journeys or travel expenses.

    nickfrog
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    What a nightmare. Sorry to hear that. I know it is difficult when that shit happens but try and be rational. Are they saying it is NOT under warranty?

    Have they tried and change the oil in the DSG box? This shouldn’t happen.

    jimw
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    You might be unlucky with the dealership, in my experience of two local Skoda franchises one was excellent whilst the other…..
    I wouldn’t go to one after being told at the first service that the brake discs and pads needed replacement due to corrosion. I was told they had taken the wheels off to inspect them. I could prove to them that the wheels had not been removed…
    The discs and pads were still on the car three years and 35000 miles later having passed three more services and two MOT’s

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    I was told they had taken the wheels off to inspect them. I could prove to them that the wheels had not been removed…
    The discs and pads were still on the car three years and 35000 miles later having passed three more services and two MOT’s

    I’ve had this exact experience from my local
    Skoda dealer. Apparently the pads were in dire need of replacement. Strangely enough it sailed straight through the mot with the same brakes months later. No advisories, nothing.

    mjsmke
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    What a nightmare. Sorry to hear that. I know it is difficult when that shit happens but try and be rational. Are they saying it is NOT under warranty?

    Have they tried and change the oil in the DSG box? This shouldn’t happen.

    With the DSG box they kept saying “No fault found” even though I took one of them on a test drive and the fault happened like clockwork. Lost count of the number of conversations I had with Skoda UK but they wont do anything. I even went down the route of seeking legal help. They were very interested in the case until I said Skoda, then they didn’t want to know.

    The car drives great once warmed up but it feels like a ticking time bomb and I’d rather move on soon before anything goes wrong.

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    We’ve currently got a Yeti (manual) and apart from a couple of trim niggles it’s been OK.  Having said that, I think the interior space, ride quality and fuel consumption are all pretty disappointing….but not as cr*p as my wife’s old Panda 4×4!

    Previously owned both a Honda Jazz and two Renault Kangoo MPV’s (Renault version of a Berlingo).  If we were in the market to replace out Yeti, I’d definitely have a good test drive of a Berlingo.  The Honda Jazz are great and have got similar internal space as the Yeti, but it’s more easily configured to stick a bike inside, and I’m sure the rear had more legroom.  I used to get 60+mpg out of my 10 year old Jazz on A & B road commutes.

    The Kangoos we had were brilliant, and we kept the last one 10 years.  Apart from the usual consumables, the only thing we had a problem with was the EGR on the diesel- but that was a relatively cheap fix. For a practical car, there’s not much that can touch the Berlingo/Kangoo type things…IMO of course;)

    Inbred456
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    All DSG gearboxes regardless of what VAG say need the oil changing approx 4yrs/30K. Any good transmission specialist can do this. The DQ200 box used in a lot of 1.2 Tsi’s can’t in my opinion cope with the torque produced by this engine and the weight of the larger models. Fresh oil should help at least enough so you can trade it in. If I was looking for a replacement for the Yeti I would have a Suzuki Vitara 1.0T or the 1.4T Boosterjet in a heart beat.

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    I had thought about a van but it’s overkill for every day use.

    Not sure why carrying 3 less seats around on a daily basis would be considered overkill. Get a small van, Ford Courier or Connect. A van capable of carrying an MTB is not always a T5, despite what you might see in trail centre car van parks.

    mjrose
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    Same experience here with a DSG Octavia. Car was a dog and the service from the local dealer (rhymes with ****) was abysmal.

    Much relieved to be back in a Honda.

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    I’ve had a yeti (manual, petrol) for about 20 months – very happy with it. It’s a 61 plate so modestly old, but has been niggle free so far. I like the ride quality – it corners well and feels solid. Whilst the internal space isn’t cavernous, I like the way it’s configured. For example, it’s easy to get my bike in upright with back wheel still on, plus the kids bikes (and the kids 😊) which makes it dead easy to nip out to the park. I’ve also had a double wardrobe in the back of it (with a spare wheel and the rear seats still in).
    Edit: I also use an independent garage that specialises in VAG group, rather than the local dealership.

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    I get to drive lots of cars like the Sportage and the Qashqai, and they’re both fine cars. My boss at work has had Qashqais for around ten years, and he’s full of praise for them. He’s now got a new Volvo XC40, a bit of a step up…
    Recent Qashqai can be had with heated windscreens, which is a nice thing to have, they’re a comfy ride without too much body roll or pitching around on uneven surfaces.
    I have a particular liking for the Sportage, the curvy body styling is appealing, they’re quite solidly built, and the higher spec GT-line auto has flappy paddles for a bit of fun on twisty roads. No heated screen, though, and they’re a little bigger than the Qashqai. I’m seriously considering a Sportage as a replacement for my elderly Octavia next year.

    nickfrog
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    Sportage and QQ are great, particularly for bike carrying. We however just got one of those silly lease deals at £228 1+17 for a 3008 GT Line Premium in met Black on 10k. At that money, not worth owning the family car.

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    Ford Kuga? We had one for 5 years from new and it was great. Tested a Quashqai at the time but preferred the Ford. My nephew has just got a Yeti and it seems solid enough but a bit smaller inside than I expected, especially in the back and boot.

    If you want better value then look at MPV’s like Scenic, C-Max, Grand Picasso etc. No one wants them any more so they’re great value if you intend to keep it a long time.

    mudshark
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    Had a Roomster, now have a Yet, both manual TSIs. Love the flexible rear seats. Dealt with 2 dealers, both fine. I did have a problem with the turbo actuator on the Yeti which I got a local garage to replace – annoyingly Skoda say you have to replace the whole turbo unit but I sourced an actuator saving good cash.

    Oggles
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    Previously had a Fiat 500…
    If Fiat’s Panda was a little longer it would be perfect…

    Fiat 500X? Approximately the same size as a yeti, plenty of boot space to get bikes inside with a wheel off. See also Jeep Renegade, which is the same platform as the 500X and looks even more yeti-like.

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    We’ve just got a year old Jazz.

    I’m convinced it’s bigger on the inside than on the outside.
    It’s the most intelligently designed car I’ve ever used.

    We have Kia Sportages at work, which are the exact opposite. I’m 5’5″ and still bang my head trying to get in.
    God knows how they made such a big car feel so cramped.
    The quality of fit and finish is superb though, as is the way they drive. Very well built and the materials feel top quality.
    A very ‘solid’ car to drive.

    We’ve also got Dacia Dusters, which feel worse than my old 110,000 mile Doblo at 30,000 miles, have less space and seem to be built from egg boxes.

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    God knows how they made such a big car feel so cramped.

    See also….pretty much every mid-sized SUV

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    I’m a Volvo fanboy myself, so liked the V40 suggestion, above, but realistically what about the Fords? A Cmax seems an excellent fit, and if my experience with a Ford product is anything to go by, it should serve you well.

    mjsmke
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    Latest experience of the local dealer from yesterday:

    At the weekend it had a service and MOT where they said they checked the horn switch on the steering wheel, the fuses, and horns themselves so ordered a new relay under warranty. It was then booked in for Tuesday and I dropped the car off Monday evening.

    I called them at 16:45 for an update to see if I could pick it up after work or go straight home.
    Their technician said it was a blown fuse so not under warranty and I would have to pay for a new fuse. I was a little annoyed as they said they checked the fuses when they last had it on Saturday, but happy to pay for a fuse. Then he said there is a £70 labour charge for the inspection! I told them thats ridiculous as they said they checked this on Saturday and at no point said there would be a charge other than the MOT. He said I wont be getting the car back without payment and asked if i wanted them to go ahead with the MOT too. I said “no” I’ll take it somewhere else for the MOT.

    I went straight to the dealer with family members for support as I knew there would be arguments. We saw one of the managers who immediately asked if i was prepared to pay. I pointed out how ridiculous this is and how their lack of communication has lead to appalling customer service. He then said he told the technician to do the MOT anyway, after I said not to. More poor communication.
    We argued (without swearing or shouting as that gets nowhere) and they then said they would only charge for the MOT at £39.

    I will never return there.

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    He said I wont be getting the car back without payment

    iirc the Police don’t like that approach too much

    jimw
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    The communication issue is not restricted to Skoda dealerships, but the response to such problems is revealing. I took my partner’s Polo for its MOT and service. They asked if we wanted to change the brake fluid, I said no as a mate has a hygrometer to test for water in the fluid and that I would check to see if it was necessary. The service girl wrote NO on the job card. When I got to pick the car up surprise!a charge for the fluid change. The technician had seen the code to do it but not the cancellation and had gone ahead. I pointed out that I said no, they checked the card, and immediately took the charge off with an apology.
    I will go there again.

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    Timely.

    We’ve just bought a 4×4 Yeti. 2 years old, 16k miles. Diesel/manual. Liking it so far, though there’s a wee bit of wind noise at speed.

    Will be researching winter tyres over the next couple of days.

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