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  • Singletrack Lawyers: Neighbour Dispute Can I sue ??
  • pallyally
    Free Member

    Neighbour refurbishing house. Contractor damages fence at one end by breaking fencepost with digger. A few days later contractor knocks down fence at the other end breaking another post and smashing a panel. Fence is joint responsibility. Despite promises, a year on neighbour still hasn’t repaired. During February storms another chunk of fence lands in my garden. neighbour refuses to say when he will repair the fence (but he “will eventially”) Neighbour breaks off diplomatic relations. Emails go unanswered, Recorded delivery letters asking for a commitment returned by GPO.
    Got my own contractor to repair at a cost of £480. Need to recover money from neighbour but he will of course ignore the invoice when I send it.

    If he refuses to pay, can I sue him for £480 ?

    jota180
    Free Member

    If he refuses to pay, can I sue him for £480 ?

    Yup

    Will you win? Who knows?

    MoreCashThanDash
    Full Member

    Sounds like it is his contractor you need to sue, if he caused the damage?

    bonchance
    Free Member

    Try ‘Hetherington’ at the Dailym…youknowwhat..

    I think you mean: do I stand a remote chance of improving the position, or recovering the readies. Would anyone else spend their own money on this?

    Two hopes, one is called Bob.

    Time may heal – but your nextdoor will still be a ****.

    bearnecessities
    Full Member

    Just make sure the invoice is offensive.

    😳

    pallyally
    Free Member

    Actually, if the outcome was a CCJ I’d be happy. Don’t minding risking a few quid to follow things through.

    Suppose the question should have been “is £480 above the minimum threshold for suing someone?”

    deadlydarcy
    Free Member

    No, you can sue. Is it worth the hassle? Only you know.

    I’d probably put up my own panels. Do it when he’s away. Paint “COCK” on his side, but using wood bleach, not paint. Either that or use a blowtorch. See how quickly the lazy bastard gets off his arse and does something about it.

    MoreCashThanDash
    Full Member

    The other question is: When I sell the house and the purchaser’s solicitor asks if we have had any disputes with the neighbour, will I be happy to say “Yes, I sued his sorry ass rather than pursuing his negligent contractor who should have public liability insurance for just such an occasion”?

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    Neighbour breaks off diplomatic relations. Emails go unanswered, Recorded delivery letters asking for a commitment returned by GPO.

    What does he do now when you knock on his door and ask to have a chat about it?

    grizedaleforest
    Full Member

    What does he do when you knock on his door and ask to have a chat about it?

    ^^Yes^^ You’re on a hiding to nothing here. Your best outcome is surely a negotiated settlement. Try and talk to him. Is there anyone you both know who be able and willing to mediate?

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    there will be no negotiated settlement with the neighbour as he has done **** all for over a year and wont even speak to the OP that is flogging a dead horse

    as above you can sue but it will cost.
    DO you have any proof the contractors did it or anything in writing saying the neighbour would fix it ?

    if you have then I assume you will win

    IANAL

    hora
    Free Member

    OP do you have any correspondence at all documented? i.e an admission that a person contracted/instructed/employed by the neighbour caused the damage?

    If so I’d go down the small claims route. If its all verbal- well its a big gamble isn’t it.

    £480 is alot of money to pay for something that you didn’t do/do wrong. Its also principle. What an utter cock. I’d feel embarrased/get it sorted asap if it was my building work without even having a conversation with anyone.

    sugdenr
    Free Member

    The trick I use with companies – and it is 100% effective so far – is to download and fill out the N1, then send it to them with a letter titled ‘letter before action’, telling them because they refuse to be reasonable and cooperate it is end of the line so pay up or you will have no other choice but be forced issue the claim, which will be filed in 7 days with no further notice. Emphasise the ‘unreasonable’, and ‘forced to take action’ etc etc. In the claim add 150 or so for costs, cost of issuing and also interest at the judicial rate (iirc still 8%) helps to make it look costly if they don’t respond.

    slowoldgit
    Free Member

    @ dd

    See how quickly the lazy bastard gets off his arse and does something about it.

    On past form the neighbour would probably knock it flat into the OP’s garden.

    cb
    Full Member

    OP – question that has been asked already about evidence. Without it I’d guess the court would think your neighbour is indeed a cock but won’t be able to do anything about it. If he’s that much of a knob, lying in court will be no problem to him. If he doesn’t turn up it will be a different matter but that’s a real risk.

    annebr
    Free Member

    I’d just fix it myself and be smug in the knowledge that I’m a better person than the *womble next door.

    There is little to gain from sueing your neighbours.

    Though I am tempted to do what DD suggested too.

    andermt
    Free Member

    I’d just fix it myself and be smug in the knowledge that I’m a better person than the *womble next door.

    Whilst the ‘womble’ sits there saying, “told you next door would fix it if I left it long enough, saved a load of cash there.”

    hora
    Free Member

    annebr you’d save yourself alot of stress.

    The issue is your neighbour may be the type who thinks they now have carte blanch to rough-ride over you for everything. Parking etc.

    Its principle. Live your life by principle.

    project
    Free Member

    Its now your new fence, let it go at that, perhaps he has no money or want pay if he has.

    annebr
    Free Member

    I doubt the *womble thinks about next door at all.

    He lives in “*womble world” and you do not exist.

    weeksy
    Full Member

    Neighbour breaks off diplomatic relations. Emails go unanswered, Recorded delivery letters asking for a commitment returned by GPO.

    Honestly ? with a neighbour ? you posted recorded letters next door ?

    barkm
    Free Member

    recorded letters to next door?! Just hand deliver it surely. I mean place it in their hand, when you pop over to talk it through, man to man.

    crankboy
    Free Member

    From the post I assume you talked about it then he stopped talking so you moved to email then to recorded delivery . You can sue him but it would be clearer to sue the contractor who actually caused the damage beware the contractor may argue he was instructed to take down those sections by the neighbour. A claim against a contractor would not need to be disclosed to a future purchaser of your house a neighbour dispute would.
    Threads like this make me find excuses to buy beers for my excellent friendly and helpful neighbours.

    Daffy
    Full Member

    I don’t suppose you happen to be in a position where the installation of trees would block sunlight into his garden are you?

    br
    Free Member

    £480 is alot of money to pay for something that you didn’t do/do wrong. Its also principle.

    Whatever you do, don’t fight a legal case based on ‘principle’…

    franksinatra
    Full Member

    You should not have replaced the fence, just plant some of these beauties instead

    peterfile
    Free Member

    Whatever you do, don’t fight a legal case based on ‘principle’…

    +1

    If you desperately want your day in court, go after the contractor, not your neighbour.

    You’d probably be massively underwhelmed by a default judgment anyway (if he isn’t responding to letters/emails, what makes you think he’ll show up for your day in court?)

    Honestly, although I can empathise with your frustrations, I think that going down the litigation route with your neighbour will cost you far more than £480 over the years.

    twinw4ll
    Free Member

    This is best sorted with a fist fight, if he’s bigger, get tooled up.

    hooli
    Full Member

    I guess money claim online would be the best way to trace your money, otherwise legal bills will be far higher than the £480 odd.

    curiousyellow
    Free Member

    I thought this was what buildings insurance was for?

    edlong
    Free Member

    I thought this was what buildings insurance was for?

    Nope. It’s what public liability insurance (the contractor’s) is for.

    DaRC_L
    Full Member

    Additionally – do you want to move in the future? You have to mention neighbour disputes to potential buyers. Apparently a lot of potential buyers are scared off by properties with neighbour disputes.

    I think taking your neighbour to court constitutes a neighbour dispute – although I’d have to confirm with Mrs DaRC_L (my legal representative)

    Freester
    Full Member

    It’s really not worth getting subsumed by this. Although I do understand as I was in a similar situation once. Horrible bad nick fence owned by neighbour who refused to do f’all about it.

    My advice would be to get yourself a nice new fence and put it on your land, not on the boundary. Get one that looks nice from your side and as bland / horrible and imposing on your neighbours.

    He’ll either hate it or not give a t***. Either way you will be happy and the dispute will be forgotten before long.

    dooosuk
    Free Member

    My advice would be to get yourself a nice new fence and put it on your land, not on the boundary.

    Do this and then paint each panel a different colour of the rainbow on his side 🙂

    ampthill
    Full Member

    Look into the small claims court

    Its reputedly easy enough to do yourself

    But suing. no way IMHO. If he doesn’t show up your left with all your legal costs and then suing for those.

    http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/wales/law_w/law_legal_system_e/law_taking_legal_action_e/small_claims.htm

    mudshark
    Free Member

    Given it’s been so long wouldn’t be tricky to explain why leaving it so long to go after the contractor? Odd that the neighbour didn’t make the contractor sort it out at the time really.

    pallyally
    Free Member

    Some very balanced advice there.
    Since the neighbour engaged the contractor who knocked the fence down I would assume that the neighbour is legally accountable.
    I didn’t mention the roof tiles landing on my doorstep, the killing of my bedding plants, the glass all over my pathway, the rubble landing on my car etc etc. Believe me, I have had many reasonable discussions with the guy.
    My choices are either to forget it or try to bring a bit of misery to his life by going through the courts. Would be happy with a CCJ if it screws up his credit rating.

    Freester
    Full Member

    Do what you need if you want a bit of moral payback. Just don’t let it take over and start dominating your life. These things have a tendency to become all-consuming. I know I’ve been there.

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